RICLARK
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Does anyone have a link or comments on style guidelines for this. Traditional Ingredients and what not?
Beerrific said:Style guide:
http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style04.html#1c
There is a Jamil show episode on Schwarzbier:
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/archive/Jamil11-20-06.mp3
Recipe:
http://beerdujour.com/Recipes/Jamil/The_Jamil_Show_-_Schwarzbier.html
jdoiv said:I brewed his recipe and just made substitutions on the hops and yeast. It's in primary right now and I think it will turn out great from the one sample I've had.
quickerNu said:Riclark, I have never done a decoction mash. Guess it is time to start. Could you tell me why you picked these temps?
Protein Rest Add 3.49 gal of water at 132.1 F 122.0 F 30 min
Saccrification Add 3.10 gal of water at 187.9 F 150.0 F 30 min
RICLARK said:What were your Substitutions? Im really intrigued to make one and so far it doesn't seem overly complicated. Are you still Lagering?
the_bird said:Wait, why are you doing two pounds of crystal? A schwarzbier isn't really sweet, the examples I've enjoyed have had a high, dark fruit note, but no sweetness. I'm of the opinion that the huskless, de-bittered Carafe is absolutely critical for the style as well; chocolate malt and roasted barley are really making this into a stout (a sweet stout of some kind).
A good schwarzbier is a very subtle style, IMHO; malty, but not too malty, a little roasty but not too roasty. It's not that big a beer. Not much hop flavor, either; not 2.5 ounces in the last fifteen minutes. I've picked up a light, dark fruity note, not sure if that was the yeast or something from the dark grains (I'm temped to make one with a TINY amount of Special B). It's a dry beer, though, it's not full, it's not cloying, it can be an absolutely wonderful, drinkable, complex beer. Don't overdo it.
I'd listen to Jamil's podcast on the style (fairly recent, IIRC); lots of great information.
EDIT: I should clarify, I don't necessarily think you've put together a BAD recipe (sweeter than I usually brew, but that's a preference thing) - but that's not a schwarzbier.
the_bird said:Oh, and right-click on the link to the show and choose "save as" - you'll be able to download the podcast (it's a MP3 file) instead of having to listen to it in your browser. That might help.
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