MikeFlynn74 said:
A training diet would have a lot more calories than maintaining. Especially complex carbs that are essential for muscle growth.
http://www.building-muscle101.com/body-building-recipes.html
from the above link
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muscle building diet will consist of 20% to 30% protein, 55% to 65% carbohydrates and 15% to 25% fat. This means that each body building recipe will include the above nutritional percentages.
Jay Cutler 2006 O contest at a claimed weight of 286 pounds with 3% bodyfat. He is 5'9".
He should have lost to Victor Martinez.
I dont know why I even bother arguing this point- Im happy I know what work and keeps me healthy and happy.
First I didn't know we were "arguing"... since we are I'd better get mad!!!
Let my roid rage kick in! Yes you're right about his height, I had forgot just how short he is. Most successful bodybuilders are which is what makes men like Arnold and Lee Haney so truely amazing!
I do strongly disagree with you about the % of protein vs carbs in a diet for someone in a mass building cycle. Fact is that people on the "gear" eat several hundred grams of protein in order to achieve and maintain anabolic synthesis. Translation anabolic steroids simply boost testosterone levels a few hundred percent. In order to use the synthesizing power of this boosted testo. level one must give the body protein to feed on, this is why when in a mass building cycle while on the gear roid users are eating protein shakes and meal replacement shakes to the tune of 400+ grams of protein per a day. Keep in mind the average meal replacement shake contains 50+ grams of protein and 20 grams of carbs
Why protein? Because muscles are made up of 75% water, 20% protein, and 5% carbs, minerals, fats etc. What's this means is that when someone works out they are tearing muscles, the building happens when proteins are synthasized to repair the muscles. Extra testosterone "super sizes" this process which is why roid heads use steroids.
from bodybuilding.com "Meal replacements are pre-packaged powdered drink mixes that you mix with water, milk, or juice and then drink in the place of a meal. They are convenient, inexpensive, and most taste pretty good. For optimum fat-burning and muscle-building results, we need to consume a high-protein, moderate-carb, low-fat meal about every three to four hours.
This equals approximately five to six meals per day. So, replace two or three of your whole food meals with meal replacements and you will drastically start cutting out unneeded calories, calories that can add up and, if not burned off, be stored as body fat."
Also from a really cheesy commercial website
www.build-muscle-and-burn-fat.com/protein-facts.html
"Protein Fact: Your body uses protein to build, repair and maintain almost all of the tissue in your body. This includes muscle."
"Protein is the building block of muscle. Protein provides the essential support that your body needs to gain muscle and lose fat. It is the right tool to guarantee that your muscle building and fat loss processes are as "profitable" as possible."
"Protein Fact: Protein consists of amino acids. When we digest protein, the protein is broken down into its amino acid components. These amino acids then enter the bloodstream. Once there, your body reassembles them as proteins for various uses such as tissue repair and muscle building and maintenance."
"Protein is harder for your body to digest than fat or carbohydrates. It requires more energy for your body to digest protein. Therefore, you burn more calories with protein.
This means that if two people eat 2000 calories per day, the one with a higher protein intake will have a higher metabolism."
Yes carbs are important for energy if you are fighting a war, running a marathon, or participating in a soccer match. But in terms of body morphing diet and exercise philosophy they have thier place just below Protein, vinamins & minerals, water, and supplements such as creatin and NO2.
Your honor I rest my case!
I do believe we/I have steered this fun little "homebrewing makes me fat" discussion off course.... gotta love the internet.
Schlante,
Phillip
