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I brew all grain in my garage with a keggle and cooler. I use a propane burner now and it's VERY LOUD and it seems like alot of energy gets wasted with propane. I'm also hooked into my home propane system so I really have no idea how much it costs to use it. I also rarely brew in the winter because my garage is so cold with the doors open for ventilation.

I'm looking at maybe switching over to electric for a couple of reasons. I already have 220 wired into my garage and basement. I could brew in the basement in the winter. It would be much quieter.

I'm thinking that the electric is probably much cheaper to operate as well.

Has anyone ever done a real cost comparison between the two?
 
Electric is cheaper, once you have everything built. I think the components cost more, and require a little more work/attention putting everything together, but it also gives you a lot of automation options in the future if you want. With your issues/concerns, it seems like an easy choice, though.
 
Electric is cheaper, once you have everything built. I think the components cost more, and require a little more work/attention putting everything together, but it also gives you a lot of automation options in the future if you want. With your issues/concerns, it seems like an easy choice, though.

I'm thinking for now I would like to just have my keggle electric and then another keggle for heating my mash water. It would be really nice to be able to control the temps. with some type of control system. I would want to be able to upgrade it to a HERMS setup in the future. My father in law is a retired electrician so I would have him wire everything up for me.
 
I would go electric. With a retired electrician in the family I would put him to good use. I also would go RIMS for its efficency. I just finished a HERMS NG build. After doing tests on it I wish I had a place to go electric. Brew indoors w/o the worry of the of gas. Automation coupled with the responsiveness of electric to me is a no brainer. I've never used electric yet. I still can't wrap my pea brain around elements and direct wort contact w/o carmelization and off flavors. Too many are doing it for that to be an issue, just doesn't fit into my logic. Long winded answer.....electric is my vote.
 
I brew all grain in my garage with a keggle and cooler. I use a propane burner now and it's VERY LOUD and it seems like alot of energy gets wasted with propane. I'm also hooked into my home propane system so I really have no idea how much it costs to use it. I also rarely brew in the winter because my garage is so cold with the doors open for ventilation.

I'm looking at maybe switching over to electric for a couple of reasons. I already have 220 wired into my garage and basement. I could brew in the basement in the winter. It would be much quieter.

I'm thinking that the electric is probably much cheaper to operate as well.

Has anyone ever done a real cost comparison between the two?

Check out the pol's rig.
 
I would go electric. With a retired electrician in the family I would put him to good use. I also would go RIMS for its efficency. I just finished a HERMS NG build. After doing tests on it I wish I had a place to go electric. Brew indoors w/o the worry of the of gas. Automation coupled with the responsiveness of electric to me is a no brainer. I've never used electric yet. I still can't wrap my pea brain around elements and direct wort contact w/o carmelization and off flavors. Too many are doing it for that to be an issue, just doesn't fit into my logic. Long winded answer.....electric is my vote.

Isn't the brutus a RIMS? I originally planned to build one of those using propane but then I got thinking about electric. Why is RIMS more efficient?
 
Isn't the brutus a RIMS? I originally planned to build one of those using propane but then I got thinking about electric. Why is RIMS more efficient?

In RIMS you are heating a very small amount of wort. Depends on the size of your tube. HERMS you are heating a much larger amount of heat exchanging volume. I've seen guys go with a few gallon HERMS vessle, but still much more than a RIMS tube at less than a 1/2 gallon. I did se a guys build that was electric and I really liked his build.

http://www.wortomatic.com/articles/Baltobrewer's-Electric-Stand

I think with a few changes that I would make I like the build. Both systems HERMS/RIMS work, but for an electric build a RIMS just makes sense to me.
 
I still can't wrap my pea brain around elements and direct wort contact w/o carmelization and off flavors. Too many are doing it for that to be an issue, just doesn't fit into my logic. Long winded answer.....electric is my vote.

Why would an element carmelize wort any more than the bottom of a pot exposed to a 2000 degree flame?
 
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