08-08-08 Russian Imperial Stout Exchange

MOD EDIT [olllllo]

This is the Official 08-08-08 RIS Exchange thread.
Recipe here.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=41782https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=442071

Skip to the organizer post here.
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showpost.php?p=441979&postcount=5

See the exchange policy here:
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=44987


BM's babble begins below this line...
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I just caught back up with this thread.

Are we on?

Is it official?

Is the BP recipe a lock?

We ought to think about an informal 22Oz bottle beer swap with participants. (If it hasn't already been mentioned).

We each get three people to ship to in time for 08/08/08...and we each get three beers. Then on 08/08/08...let the fun begin.

Course, we could always bottle and ship earlier and let the beers condition in their new home.

I like the idea!

+1 to the 22oz 3-people swap idea! Someone want to be the official "registry"?

We should:

- Record names and addresses of all brewers that have given their "okay" for the swap and are brewing on 12/31 or 1/1
- Make a distro chart to make sure that beers are getting mixed around!

If nobody else feels strongly, I'll nominate myself as a reserve "registry". Of course, I'm pretty new here, so I dig if you guys want a longtime member or mod to be the person trusted with mailing addresses. I understand privacy.

-Chris

I also think the swap is a great idea. Count me in.

Chris, I think it's cool that you volunteered to take on the registry. I wouldn't have a problem with you serving that role.

THIS SINGLE POST IS THE DEFINITIVE SOURCE FOR INFORMATION/RULES/FAQ'S ON THE 08/08/08 RIS SWAP. PLEASE RE-READ IT FREQUENTLY, ANY CHANGES WILL BE POSTED HERE.

Terms and Conditions and Dates
So. I am proposing that we all brew on approximately 12/31/2007 or 1/1/2008 (with of course people adjusting their own schedules as necessary). I propose that this swap be available to Supporting Members only, which is in agreement with current HBT policy. I will check and edit the "I'm In!" list as necessary.

I propose that sign-up for swappers be closed on or around 2/28/2008. Then, I will have until 4/1/2008 to tabulate the necessary information, and distribute mailing lists.

Beer and Shipping Info
I propose that each swapper send (2-22oz 'bombers') or (4-12oz bottles), at least two bottles of which should be your 08-08-08 RIS. If you choose 22's, you've satisfied the requirement. If you use 12's, then you have two more bottles to include, which can be any homebrew of your discretion, including more RIS. Of course, please tell your recipient what the other two bottles contain. (Updated 1/23 for clarity/ambiguity)

Prior swaps have suggested that swappers wrap each bottle in bubble wrap, line box with something soft (more wrap, or newspaper, or something), and for the love of Cthulu, put your parcels inside of a good plastic bag of some kind (Trash bag) for leakage. Then, ship via UPS (NOT US MAIL).

Then, all packages should be shipped by approximately 4/30/2008 (giving each brewer roughly 1 month to ship). This will allow the recipients time to let the bottle readjust and let yeast settle back out. Also, by shipping during the month of April, most swappers should have the added convenience of shipping during mild weather, so that heat nor cold can stand in our way!

Do these terms sound okay? Any suggestions, please PM.

Thanks,
Chris


the_bird's standard verbage he posts in a Swap thread is:

the_bird said:

"The basic swap requirements to participate remain the same:

1. Must be a paying supporter of HBT

2. Must have met all previous obligations to provide beer to other members (other swaps, Secret Santa, stuff like that).

3. Must be willing to provide fair, honest, constructive criticism on the beers you receive - more detailed than just "great beer!," we're here to learn

4. Must be willing to ACCEPT fair, honest, constructive criticism on the beers you send, even if it's not all wonderful.

You will be sending out a minimum of 44 fluid ounces to three other individuals, and receiving back the same. To each person, you may send either a pair of 22ounce bombers, or four 12-ounce bottles. We'd all prefer that you send out good stuff - not "Can-you-tell-me-if-you-think-this-is-infected?"-brews."

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This swap fits all of the above criteria.


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12/31 or 1/1 Brew Day Roster!​

"I'm In!" (Updated 3/9/08)
- Brewpastor
- Evan!
- Evets
- EvilTOJ
- Professor Frink
- DeathBrewer
- Brewsmith
- Landhoney
- Yuri_Rage
- olllllo
- Shunoshi
- McKBrew
- Rhoobarb
- LouT
- chriso
- Warped04
- BierMuncher
- CBBaron
- PseudoChef
- ScubaSteve
- Poindexter
- jacobyhale
- paulthenurse
- bluechip101
- TerapinChef (The Birthday Brewer)
- flowerysong
- Korndog
- Trencher
- Brewt00l

Total: 29!


If you upgrade your membership in order to join the swap, please PM me to make sure I see that you're in! Thanks!




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olllllo Chimes in
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Brothers in Brew:

I just wanted to be clear about the 08/08/08 RIS swap. We have segregated the swap for Supporting and Non-supporting members. The issue at hand is a balance between accountability and confidentiality.

All HBT members can engage the community, be regarded as trusted source of information and show reliability.

A Non-supporting does so in a state of relative anonymity.
A Supporting member, through the registration process, provides contact information to the site Admin.

This ensures that the Admin has the ability to personally identify a particular member if need be.

Supporting members information should never go to anyone other than a supporting member.


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The Official Rest of the Membership 08/08/08 RIS Swap:
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I will coordinate the Swap for Non-supporting members. If you wish to be in on this trade, please, send me (ollllo, not chriso) a PM with your shipping information with your Name, Address and either a phone or email. All the other rules above apply.

Here's who I have PMed so far:

- Engelramm
- rpucci
- IndyPABrewGuy
- Dycokac
- brewt00l

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olllllo Chimes Out
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Didn't know there was a sign-up. I'm in.

PseudoChef said:

Didn't know there was a sign-up. I'm in.

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There wasn't until a couple days ago.
Added!

I would not figure the swaps until all the people that said they are in actually brew. we all know how life gets in the way of brewing.

Reverend JC said:

I would not figure the swaps until all the people that said they are in actually brew. we all know how life gets in the way of brewing.

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Agreed. I think sometime after the brew date we figure who actually brewed. That way there's no reshuffling of addresses and such.

Reverend JC said:

I would not figure the swaps until all the people that said they are in actually brew. we all know how life gets in the way of brewing.

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Brewing Clamper said:

Agreed. I think sometime after the brew date we figure who actually brewed. That way there's no reshuffling of addresses and such.

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Good thinking. I nominate we close entry at around 2/1/08 then, because that would give people a full month after 1/1 to catch up if they missed it.
Then, I prepare lists and disburse them around 3/1/08.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?

chriso said:

Good thinking. I nominate we close entry at around 2/1/07 then, because that would give people a full month after 1/1 to catch up if they missed it.
Then, I prepare lists and disburse them around 3/1/07.

Thoughts, comments, suggestions?

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Sounds good to me! Can't wait!! :rockin:

I think you mean 3-1-08

hell yeah im in, although this is probably gonna get brewed early, due to going out of town for a month.

Lets use this thread to solidfy all of the exchange rules, dates, interest, ect.

chriso: Let me know once everything is set up, dates, times, etc and we can perhaps start a new thread on that.

Finally we will have to inlcude a tasting notes thread.

olllllo said:

chriso: Let me know once everything is set up, dates, times, etc and we can perhaps start a new thread on that.

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Will do! Thank you for helping with the new thread and with straightening this out!

I'll declare my inness once dates are solid.

Brewpastor said:

I think you mean 3-1-08

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That's the one I was looking for, yes.
Fixed.

Now, if I can just get my Delorean running again...

2008 is shaping up nicely...

Remember that we're going to try and do "normal" swaps (amongst supporting members) once a quarter as well.

Pass the word to non-paying members to ante-up so we get that population growing.

Yepper…2008 will be a great year to share “the love”…

I want to be on the list, I'll do it, sending PM now.

Ó Flannagáin said:

I want to be on the list, I'll do it, sending PM now.

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Woot, added!

PM sent, I'm in.

BierMuncher said:

[Course, we could always bottle and ship earlier and let the beers condition in their new home.

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Might be a good idea, to avoid summer shipping heat...

Hey Chriso, I don't think I've seen anyone go from 0-member so quickly! Good on ya! Also, thanks for organizing this mess....
I nominate myself as a observing bystander.

me in:rockin:

Brewing Clamper said:

Hey Chriso, I don't think I've seen anyone go from 0-member so quickly! Good on ya! Also, thanks for organizing this mess....
I nominate myself as a observing bystander.

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Thanks very much! If you hadn't suspected, I'm a chronic nerd (See: The Nerd Handbook) and also have O.C.D. so organizing things is like porn to me.

I'm not much of a "patience" person though. I taught myself to brew in 2 weeks from Papazian's bible. All theoretical, no hands-on. Then, I went to a more established brewer/co-worker's house, set all my shiny new equipment up next to his, and we both brewed a 5 gal all grain batch each. His (porter) scored a 43 for 2nd place (out of 21 brewers). My (brown ale) scored a 34, getting me 13th place, and very barely eliminated. 10th place was a 37, so I was off by 3.

I could've made the top 10 if I hadn't accidentally (still don't know how) gotten too dark for style. Came out as dark as a good porter, even though it tastes like a Newcastle. Judge comments were basically "Should've used more Caramel 40 or 80", where I put a pound of each in.

Maybe the pound of each was my problem. Or maybe it was the 1/2 lb of Chocolate Malt, eh?

Anyways. Long off topic rant, sorry to wander off. (This goes back to the Nerd Handbook linked above.) Point is, THANKS for the compliment! I appreciate your thought, and am excited to contribute to HBT any way I can! :fro:

OCD and ADD are my two favorite 3 letter words!

chriso said:

...I'm a chronic nerd...

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chriso, talk about nerd…if you want some help lining up names, I’ve built a pretty easy to use “randomizer” in Excel that will automatically assign three unique recipients to each participant.

Just type in the info (names, address, usernames, etc…), hit a few macro buttons and it will spit out the exact verbiage you can paste into a PM when it comes time to inform people who they’ve been assigned. Once you type the data in, it's just a few mouseclicks...

Let me know if your interested in looking at it.

another thought/idea I had....I wonder if we could work something out with an online vendor, like Austin, and get a discount on the ingredients since a siht-ton of us are doing the same thing

98EXL said:

get a discount on the ingredients since a siht-ton of us are doing the same thing

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I was thinking the same thing about Northern Brewer or maybe Midwest Homebrew.

Even if it's not necessarily "Oh, you get 2-row for 1.10 instead of 1.30", but if one of the online retailers were to give us a special discount code for our group that only applies to our RIS purchase?

This is definitely something worth looking at, IMO.

BierMuncher said:

chriso, talk about nerd…if you want some help lining up names, I’ve built a pretty easy to use “randomizer” in Excel that will automatically assign three unique recipients to each participant.

Just type in the info (names, address, usernames, etc…), hit a few macro buttons and it will spit out the exact verbiage you can paste into a PM when it comes time to inform people who they’ve been assigned. Once you type the data in, it's just a few mouseclicks...

Let me know if your interested in looking at it.

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A nerd would have made up miniatures of each of our handles and settled it tournament style with 2d20's.

olllllo said:

A nerd would have made up miniatures of each of our handles and settled it tournament style with 2d20's.

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Nah, I'm more of a 10d10 man myself. It makes addition harder! Then, the Snorglax comes, and bites your head off while you're mid-math. Buahaha.

I sucked as a DM. People hated me because I killed their characters too frequently.

chriso said:

I was thinking the same thing about Northern Brewer or maybe Midwest Homebrew.

Even if it's not necessarily "Oh, you get 2-row for 1.10 instead of 1.30", but if one of the online retailers were to give us a special discount code for our group that only applies to our RIS purchase?

This is definitely something worth looking at, IMO.

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Well Austin homebrew is the only Vendor to step up and pay for a membership so it should be through them, now weather Forest wants to do that is another thing. It would be awesome if they would do that.

Ryanh1801 said:

Well Austin homebrew is the only Vendor to step up and pay for a membership so it should be through them, now weather Forest wants to do that is another thing. It would be awesome if they would do that.

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I totally agree. I say we get him to do a kit for us with this recipe, AG, MP and extract so we can just click and order, even if we don't get any sort of discount. I'm down with supporting those that support HBT!

Brewing Clamper said:

I totally agree. I say we get him to do a kit for us with this recipe, AG, MP and extract so we can just click and order, even if we don't get any sort of discount. I'm down with supporting those that support HBT!

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AH, didn't know about that, sounds good!

Brewing Clamper said:

I totally agree. I say we get him to do a kit for us with this recipe, AG, MP and extract so we can just click and order, even if we don't get any sort of discount. I'm down with supporting those that support HBT!

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Hell yeah! If Forrest was to step up and make a full kit for this I'd probably buy it outright online instead of driving down to Midwest and having to dink around for 20 minutes collecting ingredients myself. I wouldn't even expect a discount; the convenience of having it all packaged together would be worth it.

I'm in. I've never done an Imerial Stout, but I just received Jamil's new book, so I'm sure there is a recipe in there somewhere. Sounds like a good day to do a barley wine too.

EdWort said:

I'm in. I've never done an Imerial Stout, but I just received Jamil's new book, so I'm sure there is a recipe in there somewhere. Sounds like a good day to do a barley wine too.

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I knew you couldn't resist.

If you're up in town in August...well...you know...

BierMuncher said:

I knew you couldn't resist.

If you're up in town in August...well...you know...

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Yeah, what the heck. It sounds cool and Jamil's book is a good read so far.

I'll be in town before August for sure..Probably in January and then on a regular basis.

Time to clean some bottles.

EdWort said:

Yeah, what the heck. It sounds cool and Jamil's book is a good read so far.

I'll be in town before August for sure..Probably in January and then on a regular basis.

Time to clean some bottles.

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found out I'm flying into your neck of the woods in January to head down towards Laredo

98EXL said:

found out I'm flying into your neck of the woods in January to head down towards Laredo

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Drop me a PM and c'mon by the Beer Ranch for some Brew & Que.

If are you going to Laredo, I hope you are licensed to carry.