jtkratzer said:What size trailer are you towing? My factory bumper hitch is rated to 10k.
Torres should get the first star.
MeatyPortion said:I hope he gets AIDS
Me too, actually. I went to the same high school as him and knew his brother... Guy was a ******.
The last semester I was there, Stamkos was a freshman. Kid was actually a total nerd, but I'm glad to see how well he's done.
Florida must be taking notes from the Flyers...coming back from an 0-3 hole in Game 3 by dominating special teams, 3 for 3 on the power play and winning 4-3.
Shanahan is officially a turd. These suspensions, just like the regular season, are idiotic and completely inconsistent. There's no rhyme or reason to the criteria used to punish anyone. Backstrom with a cross check to the head gets him one game. Asham got 3. Neal is a repeat offender and got one game for two separate incidents. Nothing on Weber?
This really is absurd. This isn't about a single series, it's the entire season and the piss poor job the disciplinarian is doing.
While I'd say that he (Shanahan) has a difficult job and it is impossible to always "get it right", the whole thing seems to be spiraling out of control. The suspensions and fines given certainly haven't seemed to reduce the issue...just look at the playoffs so far.
I've come to the opinion (formed over time) that the fines and suspensions are way too short. If a team lost a player for 10 games it starts to have a significant impact, but 1 or 2 (or even 4) doesn't. Or maybe the teams bench should have to play short if someone is suspended...now THAT would have a real impact on perceptions of these on a team.
I hope I don't bring up yet another round of Matt Cooke bashing on this, but his 10 game suspension (including the playoffs) was enough to have an effect...and might have even cost Pittsburgh the series with Tampa. Cooke (this season) has been the model citizen.
Barnzy02 said:IMO, the problem comes from suspensions being based on outcome and not intent.
It's kind of ridiculous, I mean, if someone 'tries' to take someone's head off but misses ... ah, no big deal ... no one got hurt.
It's a dangerous line to be walking, they need to make a statement to the players that the borderline and dangerous hits are suspendable, no matter the outcome.
Until then, it's not going to change. Look at Matt Cooke, he hasn't taken a major penalty all year, no suspensions, fines and he was the worst in the league.
The league needs to make an example out of Torres and let the players know that these types of plays will not be tolerated. There needs to be some sort of respect amongst the players as well.
I don't want to see the physical aspect of the game diminished, and it's obviously ratcheted up even more in the playoffs, but at the same time the league can't keep losing star players for extended periods of times.
It's one thing to key on a guy and put clean, legal checks on a guy when he has the puck or when you're finishing a check. But hitting a guy who is away from the play and the puck when he isn't looking is just flat out dangerous and stupid.
I couldn't agree more about outcome vs. intent. But I think we are all prey to that. The torres hit was bad, but not vicious, not from behind, and not that late. If Hossa hadn't been stretchered off, it wouldn't have warranted conversation. Yes, he left his feet, but some of that is momentum. Yes it was also late, but only a second or 2 after he passed. Once again, if Hossa wasn't injured on the play, I think somebody on Chicago would have pounded Torres and that would have been that.
I'm not defending Torrres that much, but I think we're being hypocritical talking about how big the suspension should be while saying it should be intent and not results.
Barnzy02 said:To me the problem with Torres, is two fold.
1. He is a constant repeat offender
2. Hossa did not have the puck/near the puck, Torres left his feet, and i haven't seen it enough times to comment on how much/if there was head contact but:
As Shanahan explained in Alex Ovechkin's suspension for charging Zbynek Michalek:
"The moment Ovechkin launches himself into the air prior to the hit he becomes responsible for any contact to the head."
They really should throw the book at the guy, he's repeatedly made stupid plays that risk serious injury to the opposing player.
This was sent to me this morning,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uuv36SNZApU
This was sent to me this morning,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Uuv36SNZApU
That was awesome.
So how does Shanny make a different argument and buy Neal's bullsh*t about braving for contact when he launched at Cooter? That's my point about Shanny being a turd.
Similar hits, away from the play...we'll see what the punishment is for Torres.
Flyers give away orange shirts for every home Playoff game.
Here's the one for tonight
All the suspensions mean nothing when Weber didn't get suspended for slamming Zetterberg's head into the boards. It should have zero to do whether Zetterberg got hurt or not. After a game ended, Weber tried to maliciously injure a player, cracking his helmet!
Asham made a ****ty high crosscheck, but even Shanahan said it only hit the guys shoulder pads, never his face, and he gets 4 games for intent.
Until they develop more severe suspensions, and get consistent with them then there is no reason to suspend anyone; let someone on the other team in the next match kick the **** out of the offender.
The boldest one so far maybe...
ao125 said:This had me rolling.
Agree best post for the playoffs so far.
Nucks to try and regain some dignity tonight. Farken hell all the Van haters here(in there numbers) together couldn't of guessed a 0-3 deficit first round.
Pretty glad the pens are in the rifle range for there game at the moment instead.
D.Sedin back tonight ? Will it make a difference ? Let's hopes so. This is the worst offence the nucks have had all year tempted to not wake up for the local time 4.00am game.
But I still will : ).
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