anyone ever had a Scottish 60 shilling in Scotland?

Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum

Help Support Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

angryyoungman

Active Member
Joined
May 2, 2013
Messages
36
Reaction score
2
I'm very interested in brewing some session beers, so I've been looking at Scottish 60, and English milds. I just recently did a partigyle, American ordinary bitter out of a barley wine grain bill... Probably the best beer I've made so far, and it was a complete spur of the moment brew where I just threw in whatever random hops I had left. Best part is, at 3% I can keep 'em coming without ending up fat and farty or on the floor.
So that's the background to my recent interest in session brews. Now when I think session beers I think 3.5% and lower, so I was pretty surprised when I started seeing some Scottish 60 recipes at 4.5%. I also was surprised when I saw an article about how the Scottish 60 is actually quite dark in Scotland, like porter dark, and the BJCP just has the style wrong. To me, it makes sense, if the beer is taxed by alcohol, which is where the shilling denotation comes from, then you throw in some darker, roasted grains that have low fermentables to keep ABV low while retaining a decent flavor and body. It's the same story that led to the Irish stout really. Anyway, I checked the BJCP guidelines and sure enough, SRM is 9-17. But when you look at "examples of the style" it says they're all cask ales and are not imported to America. Besides that being a damn shame, that means what Americans think of as a Scottish 60 could be vastly wrong because most of us have never had one! I think I'm going to completely ignore the style guidelines on this one actually and just do what I want.
Any thoughts on here? Any adventurers who have been to Scotland who can confirm or deny the above?
 
Having both researched and drunk Scottish beer in Scotland, yes the BJCP have got 60/- completely wrong. It's basically the Scottish version of Dark Mild, about 3% ABV and dark brown.

My impression has always been that the people who wrote the style guidelines had never drunk a proper 60/-, otherwise they would have noticed that they'd got the colour wrong.

Not that 60/- usually has any dark grains in it. The colour comes from caramel. And keeping the ABV low made little sense as, until quite recently, tax was charged on OG in Britain.
 
I guess that solves that! I've decided to say to hell with the guidelines anyway. I'll brew the beer I want and pitch some "Scottish yeast" and call it a Scottish 60. I did see a couple examples with a quick google search, one was dark brown, the other was black. I also saw an article that mentioned the caramelization. Might give that a try.
 
I've never had a 60/- in Scotland but I drink a lot of Scottish ales whenever I'm in the north of England. They're definitely not the same beers we get over here, and I think that's to the detriment of the American craft.

Your beer sounds awesome. Keep on truckin', I say.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top