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Evan!

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So, I remember what happened with Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. Time Burglar! I'm not a huge video game guy---mostly a big GTA fan...and I rarely buy video games for the computer. But since my PS2 crapped out on me, I've been itching for something cool. I realize that I'll probably have to drop the cash on a 360 before GTA IV comes out (because I will not be denied the pleasure of playing it on the day it goes on sale)...but in the meantime...THIS looks pretty great. And the conclusion of the review is "Now would you kindly go buy Bioshock?" From what I've seen around the interwebs, it's one of the highest rated games ever.

But it also sounds like something---like Oblivion---that could be a big time burglar...screw up all the books that I'm reading, etc. So, what have you heard about this game, has anyone played it, and is it a bad idea to get in terms of being a "time burglar"?
 
Not sure about this game but my personal opinion (take it or leave it) is that video games are time burglars anyway. I would personally much rather read a book or go outside and play with my son or just walk around a park or ride a bike or Brew! like i said though just my opinion, but if you are into it than i say buy it or put the money toward the 360.

Cheers
 
Personally, I tend to get bored playing video games after a little while, although I did find an emulator for a bunch of old Nintendo games (old-school stuff like Super Mario Bros. 3) that I've been playing a fair amount of this past week. Then, last night, I found a java emulator for my old Tandy CoCo, with craploads of games that I used to play when I was a wee little one. But, the controls kinda suck.

I refuse, though, to spend a dime on a video game system, I just can't justify it as a good use of my time.

Incidentally, is there anything else in this world more mind-numbingly boring than watching someone else play a video game? We were out at the family's in Buffalo, and lots of the kids (and the brother-in-law) were sitting around watching each other play with their new Wii. I couldn't sit there, it was absolutely numbing - even more so when they were seemingly spending hours just making their avatars. Ugh...
 
the_bird said:
Personally, I tend to get bored playing video games after a little while, although I did find an emulator for a bunch of old Nintendo games (old-school stuff like Super Mario Bros. 3) that I've been playing a fair amount of this past week. Then, last night, I found a java emulator for my old Tandy CoCo, with craploads of games that I used to play when I was a wee little one. But, the controls kinda suck.

I refuse, though, to spend a dime on a video game system, I just can't justify it as a good use of my time.

Incidentally, is there anything else in this world more mind-numbingly boring than watching someone else play a video game? We were out at the family's in Buffalo, and lots of the kids (and the brother-in-law) were sitting around watching each other play with their new Wii. I couldn't sit there, it was absolutely numbing - even more so when they were seemingly spending hours just making their avatars. Ugh...
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Yeah, I hear you on that. Especially if it's a sh*tty game. I can't say that I haven't enjoyed watching other people play various GTA's, but even that gets old after awhile.
 
I'm a gamer Evan. I will tell you first, get a ps3... not a 360. I have both, and play the ps3 wayyyyy more. If you do get a 360, get Bioshock and Gears of War. Both are awesome games.

And to you old farts: There have been many studies that say video games are actually good for the mind. A lot of puzzle solving going on that is subconscious. Not to mention, they are the peak of technology which is really cool. Also, I go outside just as much as I stay inside and play games. It's nice being able to enjoy both ;)

On the other hand, certain games (online, never-ending games *cough* world of warcraft *cough*) can be and often are addicting and can really hurt someone or their friends and family. So stay away from those :)
 
seefresh said:
On the other hand, certain games (online, never-ending games *cough* world of warcraft *cough*) can be and often are addicting and can really hurt someone or their friends and family. So stay away from those :)
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I bought season 10 of South Park yesterday, it came with a 14 day trial of world of warcraft. I Immediately tossed it, I don't even want the temptation.... When I was younger I could play video games for hours and hours, now after about an hour I get bored and have to do something else. Don't get me wrong, I still love video games and they've gotten soooo much better, I just can't devote the time to them that I used to

Speaking of games hurting lives, check this out http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20397322/
 
I second the PS3...it sounds like the Blu-ray is winning the war. I noticed teh 360 add-on went down in price and now they are even offering free HD DVD titles with purchase. The writing is on the wall.

I used to be a huge gamer--but all I play now is an occasional sports game on my PSP. I kind of feel the same way about wasting endless hours getting into a game--so I even resisted the urge to buy Madden 08 this year.
 
DeadYetiBrew said:
Not true Blu-ray had several studios crap out on them... Anyone remember Beta vs. VHS?
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They just lost paramount because Microsoft paid them EDIT: 150 million bucks for an 18 month HDDVD only. They will be back.

Anyway, neither will "win the war" they will both be around for quite sometime. But in the not too distant future a player will come out that plays both. Blu Ray has and is still outselling hddvd more than twicefold.

If you do decide to get the xbox 360, wait a few more months till the new 65nm chips are in them. Right now they are overheating on everyone and you have to send in for a repair. The 360 breaks more than any console ever released. I've gone through 3 (thank god for best buy extended warranty). The main blogger at Kotaku.com has gone through 9!

PS3 just announced tivo like video recording for your television shows too. Blu Ray, Next Gen Games, Tivo, Hard Drive, Wireless Internet, Blu Ray, wireless (rechargable) motion sensing controller included + free internet gaming. Can't beat that with a big stick.

As a gamer, I have to have both, but I love the ps3 way more.
 
I played what this game is supposed to be the "spiritual successor" to about 7 or 8 years ago called System shock 2. That game was extremely fun. The story was better than about 90% of any science fiction you can get a hold of, and it scared the sh*t out of me. Very immersive.

I would've been all about getting this one but they decided to release it six days before my semester for school starts. If I bought it, the first couple of weeks wouldn't be very productive I imagine.
 
DeadYetiBrew said:
Not true Blu-ray had several studios crap out on them... Anyone remember Beta vs. VHS?
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One studio. Paramount, because they got 150 million from the HD-DVD manufacturer to switch. It was a bribe they will regret.

Watch what the porn industry and major movie rental chains do. Blockbuster just switched exclusively to Blu-ray. That is telling for the future.

Blu-ray leads sales by almost a 2-1 margin as well.
 
Oh, and Evan, if you do get the game, don't get the PC version. It's all sorts of messed up. A big lawsuit is about to be handed to 2k (the production company) for the problems their copy protection software is causing.
 
seefresh said:
PS3 just announced tivo like video recording for your television shows too.
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I heard that this is coming to the 360 with the Fall Dashboard update. It's just a rumor though so take that with a grain of salt...

As a 360 owner I could pitch the 360 to you till I'm blue in the face, but I'll direct you to this article instead, which really sums up this whole "360 vs PS3" argument nicely: Xbox 360 vs PS3 - Why It Doesn't F***ing Matter (Click through to the article, I can't link it directly since the URL has the f word in it :) )

The main reason I see to get a 360 is if you have friends that you would want to play online with... Xbox Live is head and shoulders above PS3's online system. Also I've played the Bioshock demo... the game is amazing. It reminds me of Half-life with the detailed environments and great storyline. Another game coming out this week you might want to check out is Two Worlds... it's supposed to be a lot like Oblivion but with online multiplayer.

If you decide to go with the 360 and pick up any multiplayer games, look me up on Xbox Live, my gamertag is ryser2k. Oh, and if you want, I have a free 1 month Live card... I can give you the code for it.
 
ryser2k said:
Xbox Live is head and shoulders above PS3's online system.
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I'll agree the dashboard is much prettier than the ps3's psn, but how is it head and shoulders above? PS3's online gaming is free (unlike the 360)... supports blue tooth keyboard, mouse and headset and runs great. I play resistance online all the time, and warkhawk is supposed to killer based on beta reviews. Oh yea, and it allows mods (starting with the upcoming Unreal Tournament 3) which the Microsoft will NOT allow.

I play call of duty 3 on my 360 online, and that's fun as hell as well. But I don't see how it runs any better than ps3. Not too mention, finding a match on resistence is 10 times faster than on call of duty 3. (can't wait for call of duty 4 by the way :) )
 
this thread went off track... Bioshock is badass. I've been playing it as much as I can since it came out (I decided to get it on the PC) and it is a REALLY good game - but beware, it is VERY creepy and graphic...
 
Bioshock looks awesome but I'm still on a PS2 and PC games. Guitar Hero 2 is my latest addiction. I've been planning on buying a 360, I'm a Sony guy but I think they did themselves a great disservice by pricing themselves out of the market, even with the recent price reduction. Xbox just did the same thing. I'm hoping to score an xbox and hd tv by March.
 
I chose the 360 not because of the hardware, but rather the games. All the major game releases that I am or have been looking forward to are on the 360; Gears, Guitar Hero 2, Bioshock, and the obvious Halo 3 are all available on the 360; only GH2 is on the PS3. Backwards compatability with my 2-3 xbox titles helped, too.

I'll freely admit that the PS3 hardware is more powerful (if more difficult to code for) and that HD-DVD is winning, but I can't see that the graphical difference between the PS3 and 360 changing much in the next 3 years (aka life-cycle of a platform). If I want to play a high-definition movie, I'll wait until the universal players come out (very soon) and purchase a computer drive; I wouldn't trust a closed-source media player on a console to play the movie at it's best.

FWIW, my 360 has never had any heat issues, but I've always taken good care of it and haven't left it on for 48 hrs straight, either.

////total tangential rant: What the heck is up with sports games!?! Seriously, you want to play football, call up a friend and grab the pigskin, or go watch the TV. Games are supposed to be about doing things that you could never do yourself, or could do but are incredibly risky. I mean, let's face it, very few of us are gonna go out and join the military for 30 yrs to get our adrenaline rush, going out on quasi-suicidal missions. No, that's what games are for. What's worse, there is almost no innovation in sports games from year to year, yet people keep buying it again and again.

EA Sport: It's in the game. That you bought last year.

end rant///
 
I thought that we were supposed to be helping Evan! out, not encouraging him to go out and buy games by talking about how great they are!:D

I am still here to support you dude:mug: go out and get yourself a bike or a soccer ball or something and get out of the house. :cross:

Cheers
 
RadicalEd said:
I chose the 360 not because of the hardware, but rather the games. All the major game releases that I am or have been looking forward to are on the 360; Gears, Guitar Hero 2, Bioshock, and the obvious Halo 3 are all available on the 360; only GH2 is on the PS3. Backwards compatability with my 2-3 xbox titles helped, too.

I'll freely admit that the PS3 hardware is more powerful (if more difficult to code for) and that HD-DVD is winning, but I can't see that the graphical difference between the PS3 and 360 changing much in the next 3 years (aka life-cycle of a platform). If I want to play a high-definition movie, I'll wait until the universal players come out (very soon) and purchase a computer drive; I wouldn't trust a closed-source media player on a console to play the movie at it's best.

FWIW, my 360 has never had any heat issues, but I've always taken good care of it and haven't left it on for 48 hrs straight, either.

////total tangential rant: What the heck is up with sports games!?! Seriously, you want to play football, call up a friend and grab the pigskin, or go watch the TV. Games are supposed to be about doing things that you could never do yourself, or could do but are incredibly risky. I mean, let's face it, very few of us are gonna go out and join the military for 30 yrs to get our adrenaline rush, going out on quasi-suicidal missions. No, that's what games are for. What's worse, there is almost no innovation in sports games from year to year, yet people keep buying it again and again.

EA Sport: It's in the game. That you bought last year.

end rant///
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I hear you about good games, but I think that's all personal preference as well. I've never had a ps2, so I"m catching up on all those games (upscaled to HD :D) and I've never been a fan of Halo. Bioshock, Call of Duty 3 and Gears are the only games I play on my 360 more than once. As far as ps3 games go. The good ones are on the way. This month and next month iare the beginnings of that. Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Ratchet and Clank and Lair for starts.

On a side note, programming for the ps3 is harder, but not for talented programmers. In fact, the new technology that makes it difficult is about to take over the entire computer industry (multiple cores). dual and quad core processers are the "must haves" now. The ps3 has 7.. or is it 8? cores in it's processor.

Oh, and about sports games rant? I hate them, but this looks pretty flipping cool. This is a tech demo, so the graphics have not really been worked on yet. But in this game, backbreaker, every tackle is unique.. using some crazy physics engine. Watch the video about halfway down the page: http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/23/new-football-game-backbreaker-uses-euphoria-tech/
 
BUY BIOSHOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Killer game. A friend bought it and hasn't stopped playing except to work and get 4 hours of sleep all week. Wicked game!
 
seefresh said:
I'm a gamer Evan. I will tell you first, get a ps3... not a 360. I have both, and play the ps3 wayyyyy more. If you do get a 360, get Bioshock and Gears of War. Both are awesome games.

And to you old farts: There have been many studies that say video games are actually good for the mind. A lot of puzzle solving going on that is subconscious. Not to mention, they are the peak of technology which is really cool. Also, I go outside just as much as I stay inside and play games. It's nice being able to enjoy both ;)

On the other hand, certain games (online, never-ending games *cough* world of warcraft *cough*) can be and often are addicting and can really hurt someone or their friends and family. So stay away from those :)
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I'm with you...not so sure I can justify the cost of the ps3 though. I'm really mostly interested in a platform for GTA IV...like I said, not a huge gamer. So we'll see what happens in several months...maybe the ps3 prices will go down before GTA comes out. If I had my choice, I'd get a Wii (Katamari is moving to the Wii, one of my favorite games ever)...but they're in pretty short supply, and no GTA IV on that platform. So...we'll just have to see.

And, yeah, you're right, there are plenty of studies that show that video games help the mind develop and stay sharp. I stay sharp by banging hoes in GTA:SA, then killing them and taking back the money I just paid them. :D

I'm just not a huge gamer because I've got too much else going on, and I'm not one of those guys who can stay up all night. I seriously have about 4 books that I'm reading right now (one of them being Atlas Shrugged, not exactly summer beach reading).
 
wop31 said:
I thought that we were supposed to be helping Evan! out, not encouraging him to go out and buy games by talking about how great they are!:D

I am still here to support you dude:mug: go out and get yourself a bike or a soccer ball or something and get out of the house. :cross:

Cheers
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I'm about as active as it gets. That's not the issue, really...
 
RadicalEd said:
////total tangential rant: What the heck is up with sports games!?! Seriously, you want to play football, call up a friend and grab the pigskin, or go watch the TV. Games are supposed to be about doing things that you could never do yourself, or could do but are incredibly risky. I mean, let's face it, very few of us are gonna go out and join the military for 30 yrs to get our adrenaline rush, going out on quasi-suicidal missions. No, that's what games are for. What's worse, there is almost no innovation in sports games from year to year, yet people keep buying it again and again.

EA Sport: It's in the game. That you bought last year.

end rant///
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Well, if you're gonna break it down like that, based on "things that you could never do yourself", then there are two kinds of sports games...stuff like Rockstar's table tennis, etc...and stuff like Maddon '08. Yes, I can go play pingpong right now if I wish. But tell me, how many of us are really going to ever be able to coach and play as every/any player on the field of an NFL game? Um, certainly not myself. And if you think that tossing a football around in the backyard with you pals is anything like playing in the NFL...well...I've gotta see these pals of yours...and this backyard!

As for "no innovation", I agree that all too often, there's little more improvement from year to year on sports games that updating the rosters and the stats. But have you seen the reviews for Madden 08? Looks like this is what gamers have been waiting for.
 
seefresh said:
Oh, and Evan, if you do get the game, don't get the PC version. It's all sorts of messed up. A big lawsuit is about to be handed to 2k (the production company) for the problems their copy protection software is causing.
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Word...thanks for the headsup. That's all the prodding I needed. I'll refrain from Bioshock then. That review at Arstechnica said that everything was fine, tho..?
 
Actually, they announced today a ton of patches coming through for the pc version. Widescreen problem fixed and the DRM protection problem will be fixed. So it's cool now. They really did a stand up job listening to their customers.

And, for future reference, there is talk that rockstar games is going to be making ps3 exclusive games from here on out. Looks like sony might even be buying them.
 

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