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Old 01-11-2017, 07:51 PM   #2501
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i got this tubing from amazon to extend the chiller output length and am going to use the same to replace the chiller input tubing.

White SiliconeTubing, 3/8"ID, 3/4"OD, 3/16" Wall, 25' Length

 
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:41 AM   #2502
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Yeah, it must be a new iteration of the chiller that shipped with V3 (new controller elsewhere but Can& US) Here is a pic from a New Zealand vendor...not sure the tube benefits...Attachment 384153

Im thinking that tube is nice for when you want to throw in some hops but the chiller is sitting on the grainfather. That tube, if it goes through should send the hops to their home.

 
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Old 01-12-2017, 12:48 AM   #2503
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It does go through. I think they did that because it is easier to build that way, and because it makes the chiller stable when placed on top of the Gfather, with the tube end fitting nicely into the hole in the lid. I use it to run the chiller output down through the tube and into the kettle. I don't think many Gfather users do this, but on my conventional rig I always recirculate back into the boil kettle and take the whole thing down to pitching temperature. Makes sense to me to do the same thing with this one.

 
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:30 PM   #2504
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It does go through. I think they did that because it is easier to build that way, and because it makes the chiller stable when placed on top of the Gfather, with the tube end fitting nicely into the hole in the lid. I use it to run the chiller output down through the tube and into the kettle. I don't think many Gfather users do this, but on my conventional rig I always recirculate back into the boil kettle and take the whole thing down to pitching temperature. Makes sense to me to do the same thing with this one.
Holy crap, you must be taking a long time to cool, no?? After about 5-10sec of recirc with cold water on, the outlet hose goes right into my conical. Last time, with my tap temp at a chilly 49F, I dialed back the cooling water flow rate big time, as at 1/2 way it was chilling the wort down to <60F and that was with the wort flow wide open!

 
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Old 01-12-2017, 06:47 PM   #2505
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Wort comes out of my chillers (either one) at 65 degrees or so. At several gallons per minute, it doesn't take long for the 10 gallons in the boil kettle to pass through so it is all chilled within the kettle. Then I stop the whirlopool and let everything settle into the center of the kettle, where it will remain, and transfer the good stuff into the fermenter. The gfather has a smaller flow rate, but less volume. I didn't time it but it didn't seem to take any longer (though I had to whirlpool manually).

With either system, I could go straight into the fermenter instead but I like to drop the cold break into the boil kettle and leave it there rather than letting it settle in the fermenter

 
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Old 01-13-2017, 10:45 AM   #2506
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Wort comes out of my chillers (either one) at 65 degrees or so. At several gallons per minute, it doesn't take long for the 10 gallons in the boil kettle to pass through so it is all chilled within the kettle. Then I stop the whirlopool and let everything settle into the center of the kettle, where it will remain, and transfer the good stuff into the fermenter. The gfather has a smaller flow rate, but less volume. I didn't time it but it didn't seem to take any longer (though I had to whirlpool manually).

With either system, I could go straight into the fermenter instead but I like to drop the cold break into the boil kettle and leave it there rather than letting it settle in the fermenter
I'm having just the opposite. Mine takes FOREVER to chill down even with cold ground water temps. I think the main problem is that I throw all my hops directly into the boil. The aroma and flavor is way better that way and just better isomerization period. Today I brewed a Vanilla blonde and had to use 2 ounces of hops because more beer sent me a batch with super low A.A. @2.5%. It was supposed to be 4% A.A. so I had to use way more hops to get to my 20IBUs. Anyways, with just 2 oz of hops, it clogged the small GF filter and the wort barely trickles out.

On my 3 vessel system, I always recirculate at flameout for a while for hop stands and chilling. Plus it works well for a whirlpool.

On my next brew, I will try seeing what the wort coming out of the chiller on the first pass is. Maybe it's cool enough to go straight to the fermenter. That would make things a lot easier.

FYI, I just ordered mine in August and got the old style chiller as well. Mine was drop shipped straight from Grainfather and they sent me a model assembled in 2015. The rest was updated.

 
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Old 01-13-2017, 05:47 PM   #2507
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Yea, don't waste time trying to chill the entire volume. Go straight to the fermenter.

(I usually chill the full volume to 170F for a hop stand, but straight to fermenter after that)
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:03 PM   #2508
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:54 PM   #2509
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Yea, don't waste time trying to chill the entire volume. Go straight to the fermenter.

(I usually chill the full volume to 170F for a hop stand, but straight to fermenter after that)
There has to be a better way for filtering on these things. What I may do is figure out a way to put on a bigger filter on top of the small one so I doesn't get clogged so easy. I tried using the Trub Trapper but it didn't work well. That small filter just gets clogged way too easy and restricts the flow which makes it a hell of a time trying to cool.

On another note, it may be mentioned somewhere here in this thread, but what grain crush are you guys setting your mills for? I just bought a Barley Crusher and at the stock gap setting of .035, it is too much of a crush for the grainfather, but perfect for my 3 vessel setup.

 
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Old 01-14-2017, 12:35 AM   #2510
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There has to be a better way for filtering on these things. What I may do is figure out a way to put on a bigger filter on top of the small one so I doesn't get clogged so easy. I tried using the Trub Trapper but it didn't work well. That small filter just gets clogged way too easy and restricts the flow which makes it a hell of a time trying to cool.

On another note, it may be mentioned somewhere here in this thread, but what grain crush are you guys setting your mills for? I just bought a Barley Crusher and at the stock gap setting of .035, it is too much of a crush for the grainfather, but perfect for my 3 vessel setup.
I'm beginning to think it's the pump not filter that's at issue. I wouldn't mind one a bit stronger but with my hop basket (and no concern with utilization) it runs only a bit slower than when recirc for mash or cleaning.

Checked my cereal killer and was surprised I'm closer to 40. I do get flour. I think it's cc gap. My gap tool is circular not the file type so hard to check.

 
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