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Dan said:
Instead of beer swaps we should start doing tobacco swaps!
Pipe smoking, a lost art.
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Instead of beer swaps we should start doing tobacco swaps!
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Czm, Breaking in a pipe. Somebody on this huge site could probably explain it scientifically but I'm no scienitist.
Virgin briar will not lend a lot of flavor to the smoke and can burn hot. As tobacco is smoked charred carbon layer will build, the "oil" for lack of a better word, will sink into the briar. The wood will be seasoned with the flavors of the tobacco smoked and as the layer builds these flavors build, the cooling qualities improve as the "cake" on the walls of the side build. Guys that smoke pipes on a regular basis actually have to clean out this cake. For me, on most of my pipes I'm still trying to build a cake (sounds weird) I have pipes from my dad's and uncle's collection, they were both serious pipe smokers. Their old pipes have a nice burn't cake and the bowls smell sweet. Those are the best smoking pipes I have.
Hope that makes a little sense. I'm typing between commercials and my daughter keeps calling me saying dad come here X-Factor is about to start up again.. X-factor. Not my favorite show to watch but it's some family time.
Virgin briar will not lend a lot of flavor to the smoke and can burn hot. As tobacco is smoked charred carbon layer will build, the "oil" for lack of a better word, will sink into the briar. The wood will be seasoned with the flavors of the tobacco smoked and as the layer builds these flavors build, the cooling qualities improve as the "cake" on the walls of the side build. Guys that smoke pipes on a regular basis actually have to clean out this cake. For me, on most of my pipes I'm still trying to build a cake (sounds weird) I have pipes from my dad's and uncle's collection, they were both serious pipe smokers. Their old pipes have a nice burn't cake and the bowls smell sweet. Those are the best smoking pipes I have.
Hope that makes a little sense. I'm typing between commercials and my daughter keeps calling me saying dad come here X-Factor is about to start up again.. X-factor. Not my favorite show to watch but it's some family time.
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Basics to breaking a pipe in is thirds. Pack the pipe a third the way full. Smoke it this way many times and a cake will build on the bottom part of the pipe. Next pack it 2/3rd's the way full and do the same, build the cake and then pack it full and smoke to build the top third.
Smoking a pipe and making beer have one common denominator - Patience!
Smoking a pipe and making beer have one common denominator - Patience!
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Czm said:
I ordered: Roma Churchwarden Pipe - cwROMAthree Large - Billiard
From pipesandcigars.com, also ordered tobacco and some other odds and ends
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That's actually a pretty good idea. An ounce or two of pipe tobacco shouldn't cost more than a postage stamp and envelope.
I'm up for a trade. PM me if you're interested.
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How thick does the "cake" get? How will I notice that it's starting to take shape or has taken hold?
Also I wonder what would happen if we tried to mail a 1/2oz or so of tobacco across the border...
Also I wonder what would happen if we tried to mail a 1/2oz or so of tobacco across the border...
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Another tip to building cake (I've nothing to add to Dans synopsis on seasoning) is, prior to cleaning out your pipe and best done after having smoked an entire bowl while the inside is still warm and a bit sticky from tar, place your thumb over the tobacco hole and shake the holy **** out of it.
The intent here is to get a layer of fine ash coating the inside of the bowl. That is what builds cake. Ash.
The intent here is to get a layer of fine ash coating the inside of the bowl. That is what builds cake. Ash.
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The ole exclusive pipe smokers would have to get their bowls reamed out periodically to remove the cake. So, it can get pretty thick.
You generally won't notice unless you smoke a LOT. Like daily, throughout the day, nothing but pipe smoking. And even then, you'll prolly notice it doesn't smoke as long before you'll actually notice the cake.
Prolly nothing for that small an amount. Worst case, they throw it away. My MIL would mail me cartons of cloves from Malaysia quite frequently until she learned you aren't supposed to do that.
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Not suppose to ship homebrew either. 
Edit: But yeast samples are okay.
Edit: But yeast samples are okay.
You should eventually get it about the thickness of a dime. If starts getting too thick, more like a nickel in thickness, you can ream it down. I have so many pipes and smoke only a few times a week and it will take a LONG time before I will ever have to worry about reaming any of them. I did receive an old meerschaum from my father-in-law and he had let cake build up in it to the point of closing it off completely. I ended up having to take a Dremel to that and eventually get it all out of there.
Personally, I don't do the partial bowls thing to build cake, but it is a common technique. I just smoke the pipe gently for a while and, if it starts feeling too hot, I stop for a few minutes or slow down my pace.
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This.
Ever see the video of how Grabow pre-season their bowls? They pack a full load into the pipe, hook it up to a vacuum, light it, and let it draw continuously until the tobacco is all used up.
I'm going to have to look it up. Sounds like it sucks.
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What do you guys pay for an oz of tobacco? Here in socialist USSCanada it's like $20.
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paulster2626 said:
Holy crap! I just bought 2 for 2.99.
I think pipe tobacco is taxed lower in the US than cigars and cigarettes.
For an ounce ordered online maybe $5-$8 depending on the blend. In the store the per ounce price comes closer to $8-$10.
CreamyGoodness
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yknow what you could do to get around the issues of shipping... since tobacco isnt like homebrew (unless you have picked, cured, and or mixed it yourself) you could just say "hey, Im really enjoying this product" "ok, I'll buy some of that on saturday if you buy some of this"...
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$8-12/oz? Where are you guys buying your tobacco? I just paid 1.75/oz for McBarren's loose leaf, 2.75/oz if shipping and tax is included. I always considered McBarrens decent tobacco. Is it considered drugstore stuff?
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Dan Tobacco? Never heard of it so looked it up. I was going to ask if it's worth the price but if you're buying it I guess so.
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I'll not give up my pipes but, I just ponied up for an eCig in hopes that I can get off the Marlboro's.
I like to smoke pipe but get nothing from it chemically. Meaning even after I've smoked a bowl I feel the desire to smoke a cigarette too.
I like to smoke pipe but get nothing from it chemically. Meaning even after I've smoked a bowl I feel the desire to smoke a cigarette too.
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GilaMinumBeer said:
Black and Milds for the win!
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Black and Milds for the win!
Blech.
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I think I'm blowing smoke out of my pipe. I just double checked my order, it was a 3.5 oz tin of MacBaren Virginia from Pipes and Cigar for 14.65. What arrived is 8 ounces of loose leaf Virginia #1. I was a bit dissappointed it was loose leaf because I ordered a tin. - Strike 1
But thought 8 oz is alot of tobacco for ~$15. I talked to a guy at the store and he said my 8 oz of loose leaf should be $19 (okay but I wanted a tin dmnd it) He said I could return at my cost and once they recieved it they'd send out the tin. Strike 2
No offer to send a new tin first with a free return shipping label. Strike 3
Maybe I'm being hard on them. But I wanted a tin! errgh!
But thought 8 oz is alot of tobacco for ~$15. I talked to a guy at the store and he said my 8 oz of loose leaf should be $19 (okay but I wanted a tin dmnd it) He said I could return at my cost and once they recieved it they'd send out the tin. Strike 2
No offer to send a new tin first with a free return shipping label. Strike 3
Maybe I'm being hard on them. But I wanted a tin! errgh!
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There was a guy who recently came to my work to do replace a lock. I walked into the room he was working in and saw a cigarette in his mouth, looked at him oddly because everybody knows no smoking inside work spaces. He recognized the look I guess and said it was an eCig and so far so good. Nicotine without all the other crap.
Good luck!
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Dan said:
No. It should have been, "Sorry, we screwed up. We will get that tin in the mail by tomorrow. Enjoy the other while you wait."
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Pics!
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Exactly! And they would have earned a loyal lifetime customer, instead of that they lost one.
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Dan said:
This is slightly upsetting as I just created an account and placed my first order with these folks. Pipe, tobacco and other equipment are supposedly almost at the house. Here's hoping?
Any suggestions on other online vendors?
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No suggestions at this time. This was a first I have ordered pipe tobacco online in a number of years.
I will say the tobacco they sent is nice, no doubt about it. I have eight ounces of MacBarens Virginia no 1. I was just very dissapointed they didn't send the tin even though the tin would have been less tobacco than they sent me. In some ways it worked out better for me. This is really silly, I was just stuck on a tin.
I'm sure you'll be happy and I'll probably give P&C another chance, maybe.
Let us know how your order turns out! I think you'll be happy.
ps.. for what it's worth. I have the virginia tobacco in my top dresser drawer. Everytime I open it a beautiful rich smell of tobacco comes through. (It's my other stuff besides clothes, drawer
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