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I know it sounds crazy, but I'm from the country and there's nothing like the smell of fired tobacco barns in the cool fall air. So how about making a smoked porter or stout by smoking tobacco leaves just like they do in the barn?? Crazy? Possible??
 
Possible... Yes!

Crazy... YES!

Would I drink it? He!! no!

Sorry, but I think it's a really bad idea. Tobacco has some nasty, dangerous stuff in it!
 
Stauffbier said:
Possible... Yes!

Crazy... YES!

Would I drink it? He!! no!

Sorry, but I think it's a really bad idea. Tobacco has some nasty, dangerous stuff in it!

Agreed.
 
I remember a similar thread awhile back. I say if u want to try it than try it. Write down your recipe and tasting thoughts. If it works out for u than great. That's brewing. I personally think raw tobacco uncured smells great, I wouldnt ever smoke, chew, or brew with it but that's just me. Judging by the cig butts and spit bottles I'd guess that I'm not an authority on the subject.
 
I remember a similar thread awhile back. I say if u want to try it than try it. Write down your recipe and tasting thoughts. If it works out for u than great. That's brewing. I personally think raw tobacco uncured smells great, I wouldnt ever smoke, chew, or brew with it but that's just me. Judging by the cig butts and spit bottles I'd guess that I'm not an authority on the subject.

I remember that thread too, and if I remember correct the general consensus was that you would basically be creating poisonous beer.

I'm all for experimenting, but some things just shouldn't be done.

Just my opinion, though...
 
yeah, I remember that as well and also recall the consensus was poisonous beer.
 
I don't mind smoking, chewing, or dipping tobacco on occasion, but have you ever swallowed tobacco juice before? Either from chewing tobacco or dip?

I don't know about you, but even a little bit makes me feel sick to my stomach. I would imagine beer with tobacco in it would make me even sicker from the larger quantity. I'm sure it would smell nice though....
 
Stauffbier said:
I remember that thread too, and if I remember correct the general consensus was that you would basically be creating poisonous beer.

I'm all for experimenting, but some things just shouldn't be done.

Just my opinion, though...

Totally agree, but I also Agree that smoking and chewing are poisonous and people continue to do it anyway. Not placating, just saying. bTW altria is a wicked corp/stock again just saying. I never got the smoking or chewing thing but I see it everywhere. Probably not the best idea but there is also the caffiene/alcohol industry creating some nasty stuff that folks actually like and buy.
 
knowing full well the negative health effects of tobacco and the fact there are likely a good amount of pesticide on non-organic tobacco, I'd say

a) dont burn it, your beer will taste like ash

b) add it to the secondary. The concept should be similar to adding tea leaves to your beer. you could do this by making a tobacco tea then adding the water or just adding a few ounces of leaves straight into the secondary and letting it steep at room temp for a couple weeks. my guess is your result will largely depend on the type of tobacco you use.

c)find organic or all natural tobacco. the last thing you need is pesticide in your beer.

d)experiment on small batches, since this is such a radical idea.

e)look in to nicotine extraction and find out if it is soluble in water, sugar, or alcohol. i dont think mixing alcohol and nicotine would necessarily be unsafe, but it's worth looking into.

Personally I would prefer to just smoke a macanudo and drink my homebrew. but for the most part i like things simple and separate.
 
Kinda my thoughts as well and I definitely don't wanna make poisonous beer!!! I'll just keep it as a crazy idea I had lol!!

people should have no illusions, any beverage containing alcohol is poisonous to the human body. we can tolerate and process a certain amount with relatively low long term negative health effects. But this doesnt change the fact that alcohol is a poison, and its effect is inebriation. so technically we all make poisonous beer :p

I say give it a try in a one gallon batch. worst case scenario your out 20 bucks and you know you tried.
 
I have seen nicotine poison made. They took tobacco out of a couple cigs and boiled the **** out of it and then strained the solids out. The result was a black resinous goo that was used on top of bait in rat traps. The **** was extremely lethal.

Please do not put tobacco in your beer
 
A good way to make an organic insecticide, not good for beer. Ingesting nicotine is a bad idea.

From your friendly nation poison control center:

"The LD50 of nicotine is 30–60 mg (0.5–1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans. Nicotine therefore has a high toxicity in comparison to many other alkaloids such as cocaine"
 
Not again...these things need to die, before someone on here does.

This is a NEW reference on the dangers of doing this...it's geared towards bartenders, and really folks like us, who want to play with tobacco in alcohol. Read it.

I'll even make it easy for you, since it's SO IMPORTANT that you understand this.

We've recently become aware of a surge in the number of bartenders creating homemade tobacco spirit infusions and bitters - most of which simply involve leaving a cigar in a bottle of spirit. Often, these are presented in competitions, but we've also seen five-star hotel bars with such products on the back-bar and are generally conscious of it becoming more widespread. It worried us a bit, thinking about the potential risks of toxicity in such a concentrated form, and then we discovered that Darcy S. O'Neil, a molecular pathologist and occasional bartender, already shared our concerns.

For some reason bartenders are drawn to the idea of infusing spirits with tobacco. After I made a statement that "tobacco infusions are a bad idea", I've had a number of people ask me why. The simple answer is toxicity, but that answer doesn't provide the details intelligent bartenders are looking for, so I've expanded on the question. If you are thinking about doing a tobacco infusion, this is a must-read article. If you go to bars where a tobacco-infused cocktail might show up on the menu, this is a must-read article.

Having worked in labs for a good part of my life, I've been subjected to enough safety training and accident reviews to have a healthy respect for the dangers that lurk below seemingly innocuous things.

A couple of days a week I work in a histology lab where I spend my time preparing tissue samples for researchers. One of the pieces of equipment we use is a microtome, which cuts sections of tissue as fine as 3 microns. For perspective, a human hair is roughly 100 microns. The trick to cutting things so fine is to use a really sharp blade. Now, no matter how many times we tell people to use extreme caution when cutting, there are always a few nasty cuts. It takes almost no pressure for the blade to slice through flesh resulting in a blood, stitches and a lot of paper work.

To date I have not cut myself, but there have been a few close calls. Please don't tell me to knock on wood. The reason I've avoided carving up my digits is because I'm keenly aware of the dangers. I'm almost robotic in my use of the safety devices and my reactions when something goes wrong.

So what does this have to do with infusing spirits with tobacco? Well, it just demonstrates that no matter what position you are in, you must be aware of the dangers and take precautions. In the case of tobacco infusions, the nicotine in tobacco is extremely toxic. To compare, here are some numbers for other well know toxins:

Lethal Dose
Arsenic 200mg
Strychnine 75mg
Hydrogen Cyanide 60mg
Nicotine 60mg

You are reading that correctly: nicotine is just as toxic as hydrogen cyanide (HCN). Considering HCN was used for chemical warfare purposes and suicide pills, the fact that nicotine is equally as toxic should give a person pause before incorporating it into a drink. Also, even if you don't hit the toxic levels, there are still serious side-effects with lower doses.

Let's do some maths to understand where a tobacco-infused spirit can go wrong.

A single cigarette contains 10 to 20mg of nicotine, but a smoker only gets a fraction of that amount, typically 2 to 3mg of nicotine with the other portion being burned away or not inhaled, but still a buzz worthy dose. In a liquid extraction or infusion process the yield of nicotine will be much higher.

Let's say you take 5 grams of tobacco, with 15mg of nicotine per gram, and infuse that into 250ml of vodka. That means that each 30ml (one ounce) of infused vodka will have roughly 9mg of nicotine. Even though it's not at the toxic level, if someone were to do a shot, they'd get a seriously objectionable rush. A few rounds of cocktails made with this infusion would lead to bad results.

The second problem is that non-smokers have no tolerance for nicotine. I don't smoke, but I know many people that do and they always talk about the rush they had when they started smoking, many of them said they felt ill after their first cigarette. Let's say that's only 2mg of nicotine, if a non-smoker sucked back a cocktail with 3 or 4mg of nicotine it would probably be a very unpleasant experience.

Then of course there is the compounded hangover of nicotine and alcohol withdrawal. Probably not fun.

I trust bartenders to make Manhattans and Margaritas, and many times they can't even get those simple recipes right. Knowing that, would you trust them enough to dose your cocktail with hydrogen cyanide? How about the equally toxic nicotine? Unlike other things, I find that nicotine is a bit too toxic to work with safely and I'm apprehensive at the thought of drinking tobacco-infused cocktails. Even if they aren't lethal, there are still the unpleasant side-effects I can live without.

As for the concept of cold-smoking a spirit (i.e. infusing the smoke into the spirit) this is a safer approach, since the nicotine levels will be lower. I have tried a sample of this before and the end result can be quite harsh. The flavour was reminiscent of a cigarette butt in beer bottle. Yes, back before smoking was banned in bars, I was unfortunate enough to take a swig of a bottle of beer that someone used as an ashtray. You can't forget that flavour. It makes me wonder why people would even want to drink a Nicotini.

If you operate a bar, or work in at one, I'd say you definitely need to consider liability issues if you are serving tobacco infused cocktails. There have been a number of questions about making a distillate with tobacco and whether the nicotine would distill over. As far as I can tell if you made an infusion of tobacco and distilled it, the nictine would not be in the final product. The boiling point of nicotine is 247C so it's unlikely to pass over during distillation.

This article is reproduced with kind permission of Darcy S. O'Neil who first published it earlier this year on his www.artofdrink.com blog

Hot steep/cold steep it doesn't matter. Read what I posted above. We've dealt with this before on here, that's why I keep the info handy, for when someone gets this idea in their head..

I grew up in a time when just about everyone with a garden had a jar of cigarettes in water. Back in the 70's it was thought to be a good idea for gardeners who had to deal with aphids to take a bunch of cigarettes and steep them in water in a mason jar, and whenever you had aphids to spray some of that on the plant. All the grown ups had these jars of brown liquid usually up on the top shelf of the garage out of reach. I was a kid was told to keep away, but you know how some kids are, you tell them and they then can't stay away. And even if you can't read, you can climb, and that jar is mighty tempting.

A kid in my town died from drinking some.

If this isn't enough info to show you what a stupid and dangerous idea this is, I can fill this thread with it.
 
brentt03 said:
Kinda my thoughts as well and I definitely don't wanna make poisonous beer!!! I'll just keep it as a crazy idea I had lol!!

From OP. So can we nip this in the bud and agree to stop this thread?
 
Reminds me of the Simpsons Tomacco episode.

It tastes like Grandma...I want some more!
 
Yeah, all the methods of tobacco use only give you a small amount of nicotine but you can die from the tiniest amounts if ingested. Much like inmates dying in tobacco-free jails who swallow bags of contraband tobacco and have them burst in their stomach. Doesn't seem like a pleasant death either.
 
the only problem I see is getting sick from the tobacco. Drinking 5 gallons (or however much) of a tobacco beer won't give u cancer (unless its repeated for years) but it would be like drinking a bottle of chew spit with beer added. Sounds like it would turn your stomach after an all nighter or a six pack/ "sick pack" also unaged/unfermented tobacco has high concentrations of nicotine, could make your very sick. Probably sicker than the first time you ever used tobacco
 
the only problem I see is getting sick from the tobacco. Drinking 5 gallons (or however much) of a tobacco beer won't give u cancer (unless its repeated for years) but it would be like drinking a bottle of chew spit with beer added. Sounds like it would turn your stomach after an all nighter or a six pack/ "sick pack" also unaged/unfermented tobacco has high concentrations of nicotine, could make your very sick. Probably sicker than the first time you ever used tobacco

Did you read what I posted, It can make you very dead. Not talking about the cancer aspects...talking about the POISON aspect of it when putting it into a liquid form.

Is this so hard for folks to grasp?
 
Revvy said:
Did you read what I posted, It can make you very dead. Not talking about the cancer aspects...talking about the POISON aspect of it when putting it into a liquid form.

Is this so hard for folks to grasp?

I got it. It may give you a buzz. It may kill you. But with no way to measure the nicotine level it's Russian roulette.
 
Using tobacco in the beer is a really bad idea, granted. What about smoking grains using tobacco? You should get far far less nicotine that way. I wonder what sort of smell(stale cig smoke stinks)/taste(probably terrible)/would the nicotine instill in the grains? Not that I want to do it, but I can ponder.

Note: Please do not kill yourself brewing with tobacco.
 
Did you read what I posted, It can make you very dead. Not talking about the cancer aspects...talking about the POISON aspect of it when putting it into a liquid form.

Is this so hard for folks to grasp?

It wouldn't be if you weren't using hyperbole to make a point that is overblown and hysterical.

Snuff. Ingested. Chewing tobacco. Ingested.

Yes, the point is to absorb the nicotine through the membrane of the mouth, but you ingest it. You ingest far more of it than you would in drinking beer with a bit of tobacco used in brewing.

Beer has been made with tobacco, commercially. No one has been hospitalized. No one has died. Cocktails have been made with tobacco-infused spirits. No one has been hospitalized. No one has died.

Use facts, not panic. The link you posted is full of assumptions, like that it's possible to completely extract 100% of the nicotine in tobacco through infusion. Doubtful.

Be cautionary; that's a good thing. Making hysterical facts up to try to scare people is not.

It's the amount of a substance that determines how dangerous it is. The link you provided states that if, somehow, you magically extracted ALL the nicotine from 5 grams of tobacco (6 cigarette's worth) in 250ml of vodka, you have enough to make someone have a rush, and maybe get ill from a shot.

That same effect, with the magical 100% extraction, would take over 400 cigarette's worth of tobacco for 5 gallons of beer.

WARNING: don't use 400 cigarettes to infuse your beer.
 
It's not hyperbole, it's plain facts..You more more info? Here....before you use things like Chewing tobacco in your analogy, do you even understand the method of ingestion, and infusion.

I'm not going to argue with a troll. Here's more info, and I can KEEP giving all any one with half a brain need.

There's a bunch of threads on this topic if you search for it, usually some fool thinks it would be cool to do ...you will find that it is highly toxic. In fact people used to be poisoned by using an extraction from tobbaco.

as little as one in water... Not 400 ciggies.

Lethal Dose
Arsenic 200mg
Strychnine 75mg
Hydrogen Cyanide 60mg
Nicotine 60mg

You are reading that correctly: nicotine is just as toxic as hydrogen cyanide (HCN). Considering HCN was used for chemical warfare purposes and suicide pills, the fact that nicotine is equally as toxic should give a person pause before incorporating it into a drink. Also, even if you don't hit the toxic levels, there are still serious side-effects with lower doses.

Let's do some maths to understand where a tobacco-infused spirit can go wrong.

A single cigarette contains 10 to 20mg of nicotine, but a smoker only gets a fraction of that amount, typically 2 to 3mg of nicotine with the other portion being burned away or not inhaled, but still a buzz worthy dose. In a liquid extraction or infusion process the yield of nicotine will be much higher.

Let's say you take 5 grams of tobacco, with 15mg of nicotine per gram, and infuse that into 250ml of vodka. That means that each 30ml (one ounce) of infused vodka will have roughly 9mg of nicotine. Even though it's not at the toxic level, if someone were to do a shot, they'd get a seriously objectionable rush. A few rounds of cocktails made with this infusion would lead to bad results.


Don't do it..When you hear of a beer or wine that has essence of tobbacco, that is a descriptor, not actual tobacco flavor.

The leaf extract was a popular pest control method up to the beginning of the 20th century. In 1851, the Belgian chemist Jean Stas was the first to prove the use of tobacco extract as a murder poison in the civilised world. The Belgian count Hippolyte Visart de Bocarmé had poisoned his brother-in-law with tobacco leaf extract in order to acquire some urgently needed money. This was the first exact proof of alkaloid

Those flavors come from roasted grains, occaisonally adjuncts like raisins like the above person said. Don't even think about REAL tobacco.

I wouldn't think about smoking malt with it either...let's see, formaldehyde and about 50 other deadly compounds come out in the smoke and would then cling to the grains...

The stuff that comes out in the smoke which will attach itself to the grain will be more often than not, be just as nasty as the nicotine...How do you think the hickory taste gets from the smoke to the meat when you smoke a brisket for example? It's chemical molecules that cling to and penetrate the meat...the same thing will happen to the grain....the compounds given off in the burning tobacco will attach to the grain...then they will leach into the wort...

Heres what the Center for Disease control says about nicotine poisoning...

Clinical description

After oral ingestion of nicotine, signs and symptoms of nicotine poisoning mimic those for nerve agent or organophosphate poisoning and typically include excess oral secretions, bronchorrhea, diaphoresis, vomiting (common, especially among children), diarrhea, abdominal cramping, confusion, and convulsions. Although tachycardia and hypertension are common, bradycardia and hypotension might also occur as a result of a severe poisoning (1, 2).

This is NOT something you wanna mess with folks...all specultion aside...This is potentially LETHAL!!!!!

A cigar, depending on its size and type, can contain anywhere from 10 to 444 mg of nicotine. Cigar smoke produces 30 times more carbon monoxide than cigarette smoke. During this time, high concentrations of tobacco-specific nitrosamines (TSNAs) are produced. TSNAs are some of the most carcinogenic compounds known to man. Secondly, cigar wrappers are not as porous as cigarette wrappers, making the combustion of a cigar less complete. These two factors result in higher concentrations some of the toxic chemicals in cigars than in cigarettes.

Again, this is NOT how those flavors appear in wines and beers where you appear to taste it....What you taste REMINDS YOU of the flavors...but they are NOT THE ACTUAL MATERIALS!!! It's a METAPHOR....

If you guys aren't grasping this idea...listen to this basic brewing podcast....

May 1, 2008 - Beer Eye for the Wine Guy
Gary Vaynerchuk of Wine Library TV brings the thunder to BBR and gives us his perspectives on the art of tasting as he samples homebrew.

Click to Listen

He talks about how we taste, and how it triggers memories of things...

his is an interesting discussion I found on some writing forum where some author was looking for information on liquid nicotine poisoning as a murder weapon in a film....the person answering provided plenty of interesting links and info.

First off, let's look at the dosage of liquid nicotine that needs to
be ingested orally to cause a fatal reaction:

liquid nicotine
URL: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1121636
Quote: "According to the National Capital Poison Center, the lethal
dosage of nicotine in the human body is 40-60mg, although mild signs
of poisoning can show up after consuming as little as 5mg."

Your murderer character would likely want to use the upper end of that
range to ensure death. 60 mg is the amount in many over-the-counter
capsules. Not a huge amount, but not a trace amount either. There is
no way that that much poison would be able to be concentrated into a
single bite of an apple. Any liquid would rapidly diffuse throughout
much of the body of a piece of fruit.

What is the taste and smell of liquid nicotine?

Nicotine and its Derivatives from Tobacco Waste
URL: http://www.tifac.org.in/offer/tlbo/rep/TMS158.htm
Quote: "Nicotine has a bitter taste and a sharp odour."


Nicotine
URL: http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm
Quote: "Nicotine is a liquid alkaloid. It is water soluble and has a
pKa of 8.5. It is a bitter-tasting liquid"

So, by all accounts, the stuff is nasty tasting and nasty smelling.
Probably very noticable in apples, which are quite mild.

So, even if the victim character doesn't notice the bad taste and
smell, what happens after the first poison-laced bite?

NICOTINE
URL: http://www.cepis.ops-oms.org/bvsapud/i/fulltext/nicotine/nicotine.htm
Quote: "Nicotine initially causes a burning sensation in mouth,
throat, esophagus and stomach. Increased salivation follows. Nausea,
vomiting, abdominal pain, and diarrhea are common. Vomiting may occur
very early after tobacco ingestion, minimizing absorption and other
toxic manifestations."

Not likely to cause the victim character to take a second bite.

While some researchers have experimented with prescribing liquid
nicotine as a smoking cure, the dose is very low and the patient knows
that they are taking the cure and will put up with the taste, smell,
and other nasty sensations:

Liquid Nicotine
URL: http://www.thecarolinachannel.com/health/897821/detail.html
Quote: "Researchers at Duke University Medical Center have patented a
nicotine solution and are testing to see if it can help people quit
smoking. The nicotine solution can be added to coffee, tea, soda,
beer, lemonade or other acidic beverages and consumed several times a
day in place of smoking. In a small pilot study, the solution proved
effective. Twenty-five smokers chose a date to quit and were given the
solution to mix into their beverages with instructions to use it as
needed for smoking urges during a 12-week period. Participants drank
between 2.5 milligrams to 10 milligrams of the solution per beverage.
Abstinence rates reported by participants were 28 percent at 4 weeks,
24 percent at 3 months, and 20 percent at 6 months. Side effects of
the oral solution were minimal. Only one participant dropped out of
the study, complaining of a burning sensation at the site of dental
work."

The only mention I found of trying to camouflage the taste and smell
of nicotine for oral consumption is the "Nicotini", a nicotine laced
cocktail. They go to great lengths to cover up the offensive
taste/smell.


So, if you want to use liquid nicotine in your script plot, I suggest
you find another, more plausible way of getting it inside your
fictitious victim.

Further scientific information on nicotine and its effects can be found at:

NICOTINE
URL: http://www.cepis.ops-oms.org/bvsapud/i/fulltext/nicotine/nicotine.htm

Nicotine
URL: http://www.inchem.org/documents/pims/chemical/nicotine.htm


There is a liquid nicotine solution but I would think they extract it in a way that keeps it below a poisonous limit, I wouldn't trust us to do it though.

I love a good cigar... smoke em if you got em...but don't CONCENTRATE the chemicals in you beer!

People dying is hybole? Kids dying because they got into a jar of water that couple of cigarettes were soaked in can kill...that simple.

I take people experimenting with something potentionally lethal serious.
 
I stand corrected about smoking grains with tobacco. Probably is a worse idea than I even thought it was. Good read Revvy, can always count on you to have thorough supporting documentation.
 
I'm not going to argue with a troll. Here's more info, and I can KEEP giving all any one with half a brain need.

Yes, anyone who doesn't agree with your hysteric rants is a troll. :rolleyes:

You sound like a Prohibitionist discussing the evils of alcohol, or a modern day version demonizing marijuana.

Nicotine, in sufficient quantities is deadly. That is true for anything on this planet. If you want a rational discussion, which you don't actually seem to, you'll stop using examples that include smoking and injection, or the use of pure liquid nicotine.

The point of the discussion, because you seem to have forgotten, was not the use of nicotine alone as an ingredient in beer, it's about the use of some undetermined amount of tobacco in a batch of beer.

Is it possible to use tobacco in a beer without coming even remotely close to killing yourself? Yes, absolutely. IT HAS BEEN DONE. Where are all the corpses?

as little as one in water... Not 400 ciggies.

In how much water? Or vodka, or beer? If you can't see why that makes a difference, then your argument is completely specious.

400 "ciggies" in 5 gallons of beer is roughly the same ratio of nicotine to liquid as the author of the blog you keep posting used in his example of a non-fatal dose that would give "a seriously objectionable rush".

And that's with the magical 100% extraction. Do you have proof or evidence that it's possible to extract 100% of the nicotine from soaking tobacco in water and alcohol alone, with no other processing?

People dying is hybole?

Yes, if it didn't happen they way you claim it did.

Kids dying because they got into a jar of water that couple of cigarettes were soaked in can kill...that simple.

"Won't somebody think of the children?!"
 
Sufficient quantities? If the linked facts are accurate and 60mg is a lethal dose, why would you bother? You're talking about the toxicity level of cyanide.
 
Sufficient quantities? If the linked facts are accurate and 60mg is a lethal dose, why would you bother? You're talking about the toxicity level of cyanide.

I personally wouldn't bother, but 60mg of nicotine in a pint is not even remotely what we're talking about.

The rational question is: how much tobacco would flavor a batch of homebrew?

Once that is resolved, then you can do the math on the potential nicotine that would be in that entire batch of beer. 5 gallons = 40 pints. The important distinction is how much nicotine you'd intake per pint, not how much exists in the 5 gallons of beer. The amount of tobacco you'd have to use to ensure that each pint has a fatal dose of nicotine is staggering, and not even remotely close to what would be use to add a bit of flavor to a batch of beer.
 
But you also have to take into account that most people do not settle for just 1 beer either. You would definitely have to compensate for that as well. Not to mention that smoking tobacco does not put the entire nicotine content into your system, soaking tobacco with nicotine being water soluable, (and I am not a chemist) would extract more nicotine than combiustion alone. This makes me think that the amount of nicotine advertised by the cigarette company will be advertised lower than what the tobacco contains in total. I believe they measure what you can expect to absorb per cigarette rather than total available.

Looks like a lot of math and assumptions need to be made unless you actually steep a cigarette in X amount of water and then measure for the amount of nicotine. As I do not have a lab, nor do I smoke, and am too lazy to google for it that would be where you would need to start if you want to prove anyone wrong. Revvy is the only one who actually Cited his supporting documentation. So until someone actually measures the amount that would be extracted, I will lean towards it not being worth the risk. Besides. I have tasted cigarette tobacco after it has been wet (tried to light a damp cigarette) and it tasted terrible. I will pass anyhow. Though the smell of unburned tobacco is delightful to me.
 
But you also have to take into account that most people do not settle for just 1 beer either. You would definitely have to compensate for that as well. Not to mention that smoking tobacco does not put the entire nicotine content into your system, soaking tobacco with nicotine being water soluable, (and I am not a chemist) would extract more nicotine than combiustion alone. This makes me think that the amount of nicotine advertised by the cigarette company will be advertised lower than what the tobacco contains in total. I believe they measure what you can expect to absorb per cigarette rather than total available.

The 15mg of nicotine per gram of tobacco is from Revvy's "cites", and is the total amount available for extraction. Smoking a cigarette (0.8 grams of tobacco) means taking in .5mg-2mg of nicotine.

Soaking tobacco in water gives you X mg, soaking in spirits gives you Y mg, boiling in water gives you Z mg. No matter what your method of extraction is, you aren't going over the 15mg per gram, and X+Y+Z is still going to be less than that. You probably need much stronger solvents and mechanical extraction to hit 100% efficiency.

I agree that you'd have to account for people drinking more than one beer, just as they smoke more than one cigarette. To get the equivalent of a cigarette's worth of nicotine per pint (which was not the point of your original post, I might add) you'd want around 5 grams of tobacco per 5 gallons of beer. That also assumes 100% extraction efficiency, which is not going to happen.

More realistically, a large cigar's worth of tobacco in a 5 gallon batch will give you that cigarette nicotine buzz per pint. It would probably be overkill on the flavors you were looking for though.

The point was flavor, right? Not getting a nicotine buzz.
 
I survived several pints of beer made with tobacco. My fiance survived too, and she doesn't smoke and is half the weight i'm. That's the only real fact here. Or maybe we are superheroes.
 
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