120L no raisin flavor

cheezydemon3 · Nov 3, 2011

6 lbs pale DME
1 lb crystal 120
14 oz dark belgian candy sugar

1 oz fuggles 60 min

danstar

Mildly sweet, well loved by my friends and family, good but not at all raisinny.

Missing something?

Hammy71 · Nov 3, 2011

cheezydemon3 said:
Missing something?

Maybe your missing raisins? I've never thought 120L tasted raisinny. But seriously, I've done dubbels with raisin puree added at the end of the boil and it was rather tasty.

RomanNumeral · Nov 3, 2011

special b would give you raisin

LKABrewer · Nov 3, 2011

I get raisin from caraaroma, which is a 120l crystal.

bh10 · Nov 3, 2011

cheezydemon3 said:
6 lbs pale DME
1 lb crystal 120
14 oz dark belgian candy sugar

1 oz fuggles 60 min

danstar

Mildly sweet, well loved by my friends and family, good but not at all raisinny.

Missing something?

Who's malt were you using?

Also, did you use hard or candi syrup sugar?

Like suggested a dark special b for the raisin.

FromZwolle · Nov 3, 2011

LKABrewer said:
I get raisin from caraaroma, which is a 120l crystal.

i get raisins from dried grapes.

terodox · Nov 3, 2011

Special B is a good way to get it, but I know with special B a lot of the flavor will depend on yeast and fermentation temps. I don't know about 120L, maybe it's the same?

cheezydemon3 · Nov 3, 2011

Any description I recall seeing describes 120 as "raisin" like.

Malt in a HUGE bucket at my LHBS labelled "crystal 120" is what I used, I didn't ask what brand it was.

Hard candy sugar I made myself that was probably only medium dark. (lemon juice, sugar, water, heat)

chemicalcraig · Nov 4, 2011

That's a lot of C120, and it seems odd you aren't perceiving any of its characteristics. I can easily detect about 0.5 lb. of C120 in a beer with nearly 20 lb. of grain. Perhaps the bin was mislabeled or what you are tasting isn't matching your preconceived notion of what other people call 'raisin.' Palates are subjective and our minds are powerful things.

cheezydemon3 · Nov 4, 2011

Damn. Good answer chemcraig.

So it should have tasted raisiny.

Swmbo's tastebuds are pretty unjaded, she detected no raisin either.

mabrungard · Nov 4, 2011

Be careful in buying your crystal malts. I didn't know this until I saw it mentioned in Gordon Strong's book, but American crystal malts can be produced with either 2-row or 6-row barley. Needless to say, the 6-row versions are cheaper and less tasty than 2-row.

Homercidal · Nov 4, 2011

I can easily taste raisin and toffee-like flavors with 120L. It doesn't usually take that much. I'd have to look up the recipe again, but I don't think I went over 1/2 lb. in my last barleywine. Mixed with some other crystal malts too though.

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