OK so I'm not a beginner but I sure the heck feel like one, I racked my wine once more that is almost ready to bottle 12 gallons, started another 12 gallons with fresh juice just brought in from California today, racked 10 gallons of beer into secondaries for the upcoming Halloween Holiday and set everything up for a nice picture all six carboys together in my wine cave. Then I realized I forgot to move my 2 cases of saison, 1 case of hefweizen, and 2 cases of brown from the back of the cave before settling everything in, I guess I'll finally see what you guys mean by bottle aging before drinking LOL, OK if this sounds stupid and rambling it's because I've been drinking already today lol, but just trying to help any other poor fools from making the same mistake, Ken