Double Barrel

Anyone brew a clone of FW Double Barrel?

Have a good AG recipe?

I want to try it.

are you talking about Firestone Double Barrel Ale? great beer...one of the only oak-aged beers i actually enjoy. no help on a recipe, sorry.

Yes, Firestone-Walker Double Barrel Ale.

I grew up on it (18 and on) going to school in San Luis Obispo (about 20 miles from the brewery).

well, here's a good start from their website:

http://www.firestonewalker.com/index.php?c=our_pale_ales

English Style Bitter / Amber Ale
Alcohol By Volume- 5.0%
Color- 16.0L (Amber)
IBU- 32.0 (Medium)
FERMENTATION:
Selectively fermented in the Firestone Union oak barrel brewing system.

MALTS:
Premium Two-Row
Maris Otter Pale
Munich
Crystal
Chocolate

HOPS:
Bittering - Mangnum
Late Kettle - Styrian Golding, East Kent Golding
Dry Hops - East Kent Golding

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How does this look?

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Trouble Barrel
Brewer: Chris Couevas
Asst Brewer:
Style: Extra Special/Strong Bitter (English Pale Ale)
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (45.0) Deliciousness

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.61 gal
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 16.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 32.7 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 35.56 %
2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 17.78 %
1.00 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 8.89 %
0.25 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 2.22 %
0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 26.7 IBU
1.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 dHops -
0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 3.1 IBU
0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.9 IBU


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 11.25 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 14.06 qt of water at 165.9 F 154.0 F

definitely looks tasty! i love EKG...no wonder i like this beer.

you'd want to add some oak chips to the secondary, i'd think.

I would go very, very light on the oak chips, if any at all. I also live in the San Luis area and can tell you that that beer has very little oak in it. It is a great beer but not really a true oaked beer, IMO. Regardless of whether you oak it or not let us know how it turns out.

Cheers

I did do a little more research and found out that Firestone Walker only oaks a portion of the DBA and then blends. Furthermore, the portion that they do oak, is only in oak during primary for 7 days.

I may not add any oak at all

From Morebeer, 2nd post from the top. Their recipe >> http://forums.moreflavor.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4463&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
I tried oak chips once with not a lot of success. Good Luck as that is a fine beer.

i can taste the oak in it, but you're right...it is beautifully subtle.

Maybe I will do what they do and add oak chips to the primary 24 hours in and let them sit for a week. That would give some very light oak notes.

werd. let me know how it turns out...i may have to give this one a shot myself!

Oakland? One of my best friends is from Hayward. Pretty cool place. I miss Cali.

i just made a double barrel oaked beer. not too hard it was extract though. not too clear on the part where i have to add an oz of hops and more oak chips later though, am i supposed to just dump them in or boil them in water first?

Please post more details about the recipe.

Is the hop addition for bittering, aroma or dry-hopping?
Yes, boil the oak chips in water, then add them to your secondary fermenter (or primary if you are not using a secondary)

complete recipe

4lbs ultralight malt
2lbs ultralight extract

grain: 6oz aromatic
10oz crystal 75L
3oz crystal 120L
1oz Chocolate

hops: 1oz willamette
2oz kent goldings

whirfloc

2oz american oak chips

whitelabs ale yeast CANNOT remember the type of yeast used sorry.

then it says

secondary fermentation: 1oz kent goldings hops
1oz american oak chips (add to secondary fermentation

where is you beer at now?
Is it still in the primary? Are you getting ready to transfer it?

When you are ready to siphon to secondary, place boiled oak chips and extra hops in bottom of secondary and then rack beer on top of them.

Where does the vanilla come from that's stated on their website? How bout a drop or two of extract in the secondary or keg?

It is very very subtle. Even more so than the oak itself. It is just a byproduct of the oaking during primary. You could add it iff you want, but I wouldn't add more than a few drops.

Do you think Nottingham Dry would be appropriate?

I am trying to convert my recipes to dry yeast since I have to ship all my ingredients now.

i think nottingham would work. looking back on your recipe, you should cut down on your chocolate malt. 4 oz is a bit much...the other recipes call for 1-2 oz, and 4 oz will add quite a bit of color and flavor. i think they use it just to add a hint of color.

On second thought, I agree with the chocolate:

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.61 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Estimated Color: 15.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 18.50 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 6.94 %
0.06 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 0.56 %
1.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 dHops -
0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 27.1 IBU
0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 3.2 IBU
4.00 oz Oak Chips (Primary 7.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

was browsing AHS and saw the kit for FW Double Barrel.. I remembered this thread and figured I would toss the link in here if you're interested.

http://www.austinhomebrew.com/product_info.php?cPath=178_452_43_250&products_id=1759

Just started brewing and am not set up to do all grain yet. Does anyone have an extract (with or without speciality grain) recipe for Firestone DBA?

Thanks.

FYI,
B3 (Beer Making and Home Brewing Supplies | MoreBeer) is also selling a kit now.

Couevas said:

On second thought, I agree with the chocolate:

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.61 gal
Estimated OG: 1.051 SG
Estimated Color: 15.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 33.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
4.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 37.00 %
2.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 18.50 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 6.94 %
0.06 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 0.56 %
1.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 3 dHops -
0.50 oz Magnum [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 27.1 IBU
0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
0.25 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 3.2 IBU
4.00 oz Oak Chips (Primary 7.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

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Wow, this sounds really good. I think I am putting it on the short list "to brew"

FYI Jamil broke down this beer and interviewed the head brewer on the brewing network's CAN YOU BREW IT show.

I don't have the link right now, but it's easy to find.

Show link:
The Brewing Network.com - :

MP3 Link:
http://www.thebrewingnetwork.com/membersarchive/cybi03-02-09.mp3

They haven't quite cloned it yet as they had to do their brew before talking to the brewer. They gave a revised recipe that they have not brewed, but will update in future shows. One of the big things is that this brew is about 30 IBUs but 20 of them come during a whirpool at the end of the boil, both hops english, EKG and Styrian Golding or Fuggles as a substitute. Also, a 5 IBU addtion of Magnum at 60M and another 5 IBU of EKG at 30M. The rest is all whirlpooled at the end.