Which Pliny?

Wingfan13 said:

I know a bottle shop out in California that will ship Pliny into Texas if you still havent been able to get your hands on some.

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Do you know anywhere in Austin that carries it? Already checked Specs -- no dice. Might have to use your shipper....

I'd be very surprised to find some place outside of a few hours drive from the brewery. From what I understand, there are some strict guidelines on how the brewery wants it's beer distributed to ensure maximum product quality. That could all just be rumor though.

So I did it before with someone else, from this thread actually, I live 10 minutes from Russian river, they sell Pliny (elder of course) at my local grocery store. Happy to trade a beer for a beer. If your interested pm me and we can trade addresses ect.

It's a great beer, but not imo any better than any other well made hop bomb.

blhblah1 said:

I have a similar situation. I used the entire farmhouse all grain kit a couple of days ago and ended up with an OG of around 1.065. Should I add more sugar or just let it go?

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Looks like im a bit late with my reply. If the SG shows that you're at or lower than ~70% attenuation, I'd still add the sugar. If you're beyond that, just let it be.

Just wanted to chime back in here - but wanted to y'all for the help here. I did my specialty grain batch 5 weeks ago - and just had my first bottle. It was awesome! I used the bru'n water spreadsheet and figred out to add a little pickling salt / baking soda / epsom salt to try to mimic the 'ideal' water conditions that were built into the spreadsheet. Besides the blow off valve blowing off the fermenter a few times beause I pitched two packets of dry yeast.... it all went pretty smoothly.

The first couple of batches of homebrew I did were so-so (one actually was quite a bit better after a year), this one is somewhere between a Ranger and Hopslam - but a little hint of a sweet taste. Very happy with it so I'm doing the happy dance

There are two differences between the current Pliny and the most recent homebrew recipe( the PDF). Both of these were confirmed by Vinnie on various interviews.

A. As mentioned above, both the 90min addition, and most of the 45min addition are hop extract. It keeps some of the vegetal flavors away, and increases yield. Northern brewer sells hopshot extract. If not that, consider a super high alpha buttering hop so you can use less, like warrior or summit. 2.5oz @90 is better than 3.5oz

B. Vinnie mentions that he added Amarillo to the dry hop bill. this was additional to what is already there.

I was wondering about the bottle I tried. I thought there was a bit of a sweet taste to it, but since I've never had PLE, so I'm not sure if that's part of the taste profile or not. It could have been that I had to substitute a little lighter crystal than was called for, or maybe it's only been 2 1/2 weeks in bottle and needs to carbonate a little more.

cmoon said:

There's actually a third version of this in Jamil's Brewing Classic Styles called 'Hop Hammer'. I thought it was very tasty, but didn't really have a handle on my brewing water, and felt it ended up favoring a maltier beer. Still delicious though.

For those of you who can't get Pliny, don't fret too much. Obviously with a beer like this, getting it young is super critical. It may be if they were shipping Pliny all over the US, you wouldn't get what you liked anyway.

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I personally think that this is the best/closest to the original Pliny and I have regular access to Pliny via Denver, CO on tap and in the bottle.

Sure be great when Simcoe comes back online. I had my first PtE at the brewery this week.. Loved it.. No kits until Simcoe arrives.. unless someone can figure a good replacement for that hop.

I think Farmhouse Brewing Supply still has Simcoe hops available.

http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/scripts/hopsList.asp?idCategory=21

bartbert said:

I think Farmhouse Brewing Supply still has Simcoe hops available.

http://www.farmhousebrewingsupply.com/scripts/hopsList.asp?idCategory=21

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Just checked b/c i'm down to 6 oz or so, but while Simcoe is listed there was no space to put in # of units to order. Sometimes my iPad is off, but my guess is they're sold out.

"All your home brew are belong to us!"

They are out.

The farmhousebrewing link for the Pliny recipe seems to be dead (from the first post, but I also went to their website and the links there seem to be dead too). Does anyone know of another place to find it?

Also, anyone know if the Pliny hop packs ever in stock anymore at farmhousebrewing? Seems like that would be the perfect way to brew this one.

fosaisu said:

The farmhousebrewing link for the Pliny recipe seems to be dead (from the first post, but I also went to their website and the links there seem to be dead too). Does anyone know of another place to find it?

Also, anyone know if the Pliny hop packs ever in stock anymore at farmhousebrewing? Seems like that would be the perfect way to brew this one.

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With the Simcoe shortage I don't believe that Farmhouse is offering the Pliny packs on a regular basis. I have seen it available occasionally on the website though.

http://486286.cache1.evolutionhosting.com/attachments/0000/6351/doubleIPA.pdf

4th page. Cut back on the crystal 40, they don't use quite that much. 4-5oz is more appropriate. Otherwise that's pretty accurate. If you want to be exact, use hop extract for the 90min addition, and add like .25oz Amarillo to both dry hops

Here's the PDF from Farmhouse Brewing Supply via pic. Just brewed this a second time. OG: 1.069 FG: 1.006 with BRY-97. Still needs to clear quite a bit, but didn't have any Whirlfloc on hand, so not expecting much in the way of clarity... It's still delicous!

The thing that bothers me about the Russian River .pdf recipe above is that the listed OG and FG don't make a beer of the ABV they state.

If you started at 1.070 and ended at 1.011 as they indicate you would get a beer with 7.74% ABV, not the 8-8.5% they list.

Actual Pliny (from RR's website) is 8.0% ABV.

To me I would think that 8.0% comes from an OG of about 1.072 and an FG of 1.011. Thoughts?