Well I was at the local stepchild beer ingredient store, gourmet place that sells some brew stuff, yesterday and saw a 1/2 price shelf. They had several that I was not interested in but found two Munton's English Bitter cans of prehopped extract in there. One was the standard bitter and one was called Yorkshire bitter. At $7.50 per can, even though they were a year out of date, they were just too good a deal to pass up. I had been doing all-grain with a 5 gallon Rubbermaid cooler converted with a SS braid but that is an all day deal and I have one in secondary to bottle later in the day anyway. Turns out in half an hour I produced an extract beer at even less cost than the all-grain I have been doing. $7.50 for the pre-hopped, $9.75 for 3lbs. of Amber DME, and a handful of Kent Goldings whole leaf in there. I had found when I did the couple of no-boil kits I started all this with, that they were ok in bitterness but lacking in the hop aroma area. I rehydrated the included yeast and had it all ready to go and pitched at 11:30 last night. I topped it up a little too much so I used a blowoff tube. This morning at 9:00 it was bubbling like mad and seems to be off to a great start. Just remember that even though you may know a lot about how to make good beer, the KISS method does have its merits and each method of homebrewing does have its own place in the hobby.