help me decide and please give me feed back

I have 2 recipes I have and can't decide which to go with or if they will be any good. Please look at them and give me all the bad and good feedback. Thanks alot!

first, fat tire clone
.5 crystal 20
.5crystal 40
.5carapils
.5 munich
.5 bisquit
.5 chocolate
All grains steeped for 45 min at 155
5 lbs extra light DME
1 oz willamette 60 min
.5 fuggle 15 min
.5 fuggle 5 min
irish moss 15 min

2nd stout
.5 crystal 60
,5 roasted barley
.5 black patent
.5 chocolate
6.6 dark LME
2 oz northarn brewer 60 min
.5 fuggle 10 min

someone has to have some sort of comment?

Both look ok, I would only question - as far as ingredients - why you would want to use Extra Light extract when you are throwing in crystal and chocolate. I think light or amber would do fine there. I'm also not sure how much value you will get from steeping Munich Malt, Carapils, and bisquit. I suppose if you steep them at 155 for 45 you're really mini-mashing them, might extend that to 60 min but you have to hold the temp if possible. If you steep them in the kettle you would have a harder time holding 155 for 45-60.

The stout recipe looks good

Good Luck!

That's alot of chocolate malt in the Fat Tire clone. I'm NOT a fuggles hops fan, and I think the chocolate in there would be way too dark, so I like this one better:

7 lbs Pale Liquid Extract

8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt
6.0 oz Munich Malt
4.0 oz Victory Malt
3.0 oz Biscuit Malt

0.75 oz Northern Brewer [11.00 %] (60 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
0.50 oz Hersbrucker [4.00 %] (15 min) Hops 1.9 IBU
0.25 oz Williamette [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 0.5 IBU

This is a 2.5 gallon boil.

,5 roasted barley
.5 black patent
.5 chocolate
6.6 dark LME
2 oz northarn brewer 60 min
.5 fuggle 10 min[/QUOTE]

I was also thinking about .5 oz of licorice root at 20 min on this stout