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I am doing a small experiment to see what effect keeping the yeast in suspension all the way through fermentation will have. I'll update as I get more data.
I did a simple Weissbier from extract. 1/4 lb Crystal 45 steeped until 170F, 3 lb Wheat DME, 1 lb Pilsner DME, 1/2 oz Hallertauer for 60min. My OG was 1.047 and was estimated to be 1.050.
I ended up with 3.50 gallons in the brew kettle and moved 1.5 gallons of wort into each of two 2 gallon buckets. I checked them by weight and each bucket had exactly the same amount of liquid. I then (by weight) divided up a packet of T-58 and sprinkled the yeast evenly over each batch.
I then put one of them on my stir plate and turned it up until the liquid was being noticeably swirled but no funnel was forming on the surface. I affixed lids fitted out to accept an air-lock and put a 3-piece in each. My basement has a relatively constant temperature of 65F. I didn't want to kick the Dunkelweizen out of the chest freezer / temperature controller just for this quick experiment and I'm satisfied that the fermentation temp is reasonable.
Here are my notes so far:
Control Batch:
DATE / TIME (hrs from start of fermentation) / GRAVITY/ NOTES
19 Sept 2012 / 19:00 (0) / 1.047 / Like an unfermented beer, malty and bitter.
20 Sept 2012 / 08:45 (13.75) / 1.036 / Still like a relatively unfermented beer, the bitterness has dropped off and there is a big round sticky sweetness to it. Banana is beginning to come through and just a trace of phenols when I burp afterward (band-aid flavor). Thick, creamy white krausen with some yeast on top.
20 Sept 2012 / 16:00 (21.00) / 1.026 / Tastes about the same as before, a little more banana and some spice. Some light phenols are coming through.
21 Sept 2012 / 01:15 (30.75) / 1.018 / The krausen has reduced but is still prominent on the top of the beer. The phenol odor and flavor has increased slightly but the banana flavors have leveled off. There is no clean malt profile, everything is smeared together. Acetaldehyde is noticeable now. The beer tastes green.
21 Sept 2012 / 09:45 (39.25) / 1.017 / The white topping has fallen in but there is still a noticeable layer of darker yeast coating the top of the beer. Only a trace of Acetaldehyde was detected. Phenols are decreased but still come through on the nose, in the flavor, and especially when I burp. Same as the stir-bar beer, I didn't notice the banana flavor anymore but a spiciness is developing. The malt flavor tending toward the wheat side of things is noticeable in this batch as well as the stir-bar beer.
Stir-Bar Batch:
19 Sept 2012 / 19:00 (0) / 1.047 / Like an unfermented beer, malty and bitter.
20 Sept 2012 / 08:45 (13.75) / 1.032 / Still like a relatively unfermented beer, the bitterness has dropped off and there is a sweetness to it. Phenols came through on the nose and heavily when I burped afterward. A little banana is forming as well. Thick, creamy white krausen with some yeast on top.
20 Sept 2012 / 16:00 (21.00) / 1.022 / Same changes as the control except the phenol smell and taste is more pronounced.
21 Sept 2012 / 01:15 (30.75) / 1.018 / All of the krausen has dropped back into the beer. The phenol odor and flavor is much more pronounced than in the control, as is a malty flavor I would associate with the pilsner malt. I detected almost no Acetaldehyde where the control still has a green flavor.
21 Sept 2012 / 09:45 (39.25) / 1.017 / Some carbonation looking bubbles on the top of the beer. Zero green flavors detected and the phenol odor, flavor, and aftertaste have all mellowed out. The banana I detected early on I can't sense anymore but there is an almost peppery spiciness which is coming through. Also, that Pilsner malty flavor wasn't pronounced anymore, it tastes more like a wheat beer now.
Notes:
This experiment is far from perfect. Also, a +/- 0.002 is assumed on all the gravity readings, which means that the two samples are fermenting at the same rate (within the measured error).
Holy crap, brewing is so much fun! And... Science!
Cheers!
-PhysicsBrew
I did a simple Weissbier from extract. 1/4 lb Crystal 45 steeped until 170F, 3 lb Wheat DME, 1 lb Pilsner DME, 1/2 oz Hallertauer for 60min. My OG was 1.047 and was estimated to be 1.050.
I ended up with 3.50 gallons in the brew kettle and moved 1.5 gallons of wort into each of two 2 gallon buckets. I checked them by weight and each bucket had exactly the same amount of liquid. I then (by weight) divided up a packet of T-58 and sprinkled the yeast evenly over each batch.
I then put one of them on my stir plate and turned it up until the liquid was being noticeably swirled but no funnel was forming on the surface. I affixed lids fitted out to accept an air-lock and put a 3-piece in each. My basement has a relatively constant temperature of 65F. I didn't want to kick the Dunkelweizen out of the chest freezer / temperature controller just for this quick experiment and I'm satisfied that the fermentation temp is reasonable.
Here are my notes so far:
Control Batch:
DATE / TIME (hrs from start of fermentation) / GRAVITY/ NOTES
19 Sept 2012 / 19:00 (0) / 1.047 / Like an unfermented beer, malty and bitter.
20 Sept 2012 / 08:45 (13.75) / 1.036 / Still like a relatively unfermented beer, the bitterness has dropped off and there is a big round sticky sweetness to it. Banana is beginning to come through and just a trace of phenols when I burp afterward (band-aid flavor). Thick, creamy white krausen with some yeast on top.
20 Sept 2012 / 16:00 (21.00) / 1.026 / Tastes about the same as before, a little more banana and some spice. Some light phenols are coming through.
21 Sept 2012 / 01:15 (30.75) / 1.018 / The krausen has reduced but is still prominent on the top of the beer. The phenol odor and flavor has increased slightly but the banana flavors have leveled off. There is no clean malt profile, everything is smeared together. Acetaldehyde is noticeable now. The beer tastes green.
21 Sept 2012 / 09:45 (39.25) / 1.017 / The white topping has fallen in but there is still a noticeable layer of darker yeast coating the top of the beer. Only a trace of Acetaldehyde was detected. Phenols are decreased but still come through on the nose, in the flavor, and especially when I burp. Same as the stir-bar beer, I didn't notice the banana flavor anymore but a spiciness is developing. The malt flavor tending toward the wheat side of things is noticeable in this batch as well as the stir-bar beer.
Stir-Bar Batch:
19 Sept 2012 / 19:00 (0) / 1.047 / Like an unfermented beer, malty and bitter.
20 Sept 2012 / 08:45 (13.75) / 1.032 / Still like a relatively unfermented beer, the bitterness has dropped off and there is a sweetness to it. Phenols came through on the nose and heavily when I burped afterward. A little banana is forming as well. Thick, creamy white krausen with some yeast on top.
20 Sept 2012 / 16:00 (21.00) / 1.022 / Same changes as the control except the phenol smell and taste is more pronounced.
21 Sept 2012 / 01:15 (30.75) / 1.018 / All of the krausen has dropped back into the beer. The phenol odor and flavor is much more pronounced than in the control, as is a malty flavor I would associate with the pilsner malt. I detected almost no Acetaldehyde where the control still has a green flavor.
21 Sept 2012 / 09:45 (39.25) / 1.017 / Some carbonation looking bubbles on the top of the beer. Zero green flavors detected and the phenol odor, flavor, and aftertaste have all mellowed out. The banana I detected early on I can't sense anymore but there is an almost peppery spiciness which is coming through. Also, that Pilsner malty flavor wasn't pronounced anymore, it tastes more like a wheat beer now.
Notes:
This experiment is far from perfect. Also, a +/- 0.002 is assumed on all the gravity readings, which means that the two samples are fermenting at the same rate (within the measured error).
Holy crap, brewing is so much fun! And... Science!
Cheers!
-PhysicsBrew