Time Delayed Bottle Bomb?

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I was just down in my beer cellar (OK, so I was out in the garage. I missed Favre throwing for the TD in OT. Dang!) putting away a batch of bitter I bottled yesterday.

Anyway, what do I see on the shelf but a bottle setting half way out of the six pack holder resting on top of the other bottles. I go over to investigate and find that the bottle had blown the bottom off and launched itself.

This was a bottle of a Young's Double Chocolate Stout Clone I had bottled in early July. I have noticed that the head when I poured a bottle seemed to be increasing with passing time. I cracked one open when I came back inthe house and sure enough it produced a huge thick head. Probably took 5 minutes to pour into a pint glass without overflowing. It looked like an ice cream sundae with a big scoop of dirty vanilla floating on top. The beer tasted fine, no off flavors that I could detect.

The only thing I can think of is that some of the unusual ingredients were continuing to slowly ferment and finally produce enough pressure to blow the bottle. The "oddballs" were 6 oz of cocoa powder, 12 oz of lactose (which shouldn't ferment) and 4 oz of table sugar. I bottled with my normal 3/4 cup of corn sugar.

I'm baffled. Any thoughts?
 
First thought that came to mind was a "Gusher Bug", but it is also possible that you bottled before the beer was fully fermented. Did you take a hydrometer reading? What were the OG and FG before bottling.

Also did you use any enzymes to break down some complex carbohydrates, I made an ale once using beano to remove some of the extra calories, the beer bubbled along for about 6 weeks, and finally settled at a FG way below 1.01. The enzyme kept breaking down the complex carbohydrates and turning them into fermentable sugars, and as they were turned they were turned into CO2 and alcohol. If I had bottled that beer at 1.01 like the recipe said, I would have made some bottle bombs, luckily there were signs that fermentation was not complete.
 
Right off the bat I saw "4 ounces of table sugar" in addition to the priming sugar. So, you basically doubled the priming sugar. You're lucky you've only had one bottle bomb. I'd get all the ones left in the fridge right away before you have a real problem. Or, gently remove the caps and allow them to vent and then recap.
 
Bottled too soon...too much sugar.

You have 12-Ounce mini fermenters under pressure.

Here’s what I would do if it were me:

Depending on your quantity, take a 12-pack or so and pour them into a bottling bucket. Then simply re-bottle that mini batch and give them a few days to settle, chill and test.

The pour-rebottle will knock a substantial amount of the carbonation out and may get you back down to appropriate levels. If this sampling works…then do the rest the same.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. The extra ingredients were all in the boil, not later. The primary did take 3 weeks for the krauesen to fall. I secondaried for 2 more weeks. FG was "normalish" 1.015, but again a lot of the ingredients should have been unfermentable. No Beano or any other enzyme. The only one that blew was at room temp.
 
BierMuncher said:
Bottled too soon...too much sugar.

You have 12-Ounce mini fermenters under pressure.

Here’s what I would do if it were me:

Depending on your quantity, take a 12-pack or so and pour them into a bottling bucket. Then simply re-bottle that mini batch and give them a few days to settle, chill and test.

The pour-rebottle will knock a substantial amount of the carbonation out and may get you back down to appropriate levels. If this sampling works…then do the rest the same.
That seems like he will lose almost all carbonation though at this point. Would he not be better off just gently lifting each cap a tiny bit with a bottle opener, just enough to let some co2 pressure escape and then quickly recapping?
 
kenb said:
That seems like he will lose almost all carbonation though at this point. Would he not be better off just gently lifting each cap a tiny bit with a bottle opener, just enough to let some co2 pressure escape and then quickly recapping?
I only suggested it because I "been there...done that".

If he has bottles that are literally exploding, a simple uncap-recap won’t do anything. He needs to knock a substantial amount of CO2 out of those bottles. Fact is, they’re probably still fermenting (carbing) as we speak and will continue to do so after this exercise.

That’s why I’d say to try a 12-pack and test the results and then modify as necessary.
 
As a "simpler" exercise, what I plan to try is this:

1. Dip the capped bottle ends into an Iodophor solution for a few minutes.

2. Carefully break the cap seal.

3. Leave the bottles upright with a loose cap for maybe 1/2 hour.

4. Re-cap with new sanitized caps.

I would think this would accomplish the same CO2 release with less fuss and less possiblity of new contamination.

I'll report back with results. If you don't hear from me, assume I died from a fatal bottle bomb incident!
 
I'd wear gloves and safety glasses too. splinters of exploding glass during handling....not fun at all.
 
raceskier said:
As a "simpler" exercise, what I plan to try is this:

1. Dip the capped bottle ends into an Iodophor solution for a few minutes.

2. Carefully break the cap seal.

3. Leave the bottles upright with a loose cap for maybe 1/2 hour.

4. Re-cap with new sanitized caps.

I would think this would accomplish the same CO2 release with less fuss and less possiblity of new contamination.

I'll report back with results. If you don't hear from me, assume I died from a fatal bottle bomb incident!


In the end, if you do end up with uncarbonated beer, you can always nitro it with a medicine dropper. I have been doing that lately and it works just like the widget in the Guinness cans...
 
In the end, if you do end up with uncarbonated beer, you can always nitro it with a medicine dropper. I have been doing that lately and it works just like the widget in the Guinness cans...quote kenb.

could you please explain nitroing it with a medicine dropper???
 
rod said:
In the end, if you do end up with uncarbonated beer, you can always nitro it with a medicine dropper. I have been doing that lately and it works just like the widget in the Guinness cans...quote kenb.

could you please explain nitroing it with a medicine dropper???

Yes, air is almost 80% nitrogen. You put the dropper in your beer, fill it half with beer, remove it, fill the rest of the dropper with air. You then shoot it hard just under the surface of the beer. Voila, Nitroginated beer, with the cascading Guiness type head, nice mouthfeel, the whole thing. Works just like the widget...I have been doing for several months and it works well on both under or over-carbonated beers. As long as you like Nitro that is...
It does not however work for beer with zero carbonation....beer with about 1/3 too little carbonation to about 1/3 too much works best...
 
I had the same overly-carbonated beer problem with a Chimay Blue Clone, although it certainly wasn't from lack of fermentation time (I believe 2 weeks in the primary, 6 weeks in the secondary). My basement is around 66* ambient, so I assumed they would be fine to just "cellar" in the bottles until I needed more in the refrigerator.

After 8 months or so, I would uncap a bottle and walk into the other room to grab a goblet... by the time I'd return, a foamy head would be pouring out the bottle like ice cream (just like you said).

I worried a bit about bottle bombs, but ended up just putting the entire batch into the refrigerator so that it would slow down any excess fermentation. When I poured future bottles, I made sure to open and pour quickly, but gently. By the last dozen or so of the batch, I'd gotten the hang of being able to control the head so that I'd fill the glass with a single pour.

Not saying that you should assume they'll be safe... mine never actually exploded.
 
I carried out my little experiment over the weekend. Dipped the necks in Iodophor solution, slowly cracked the tops and let them sit for a while and hiss. I actually had another bomb on me in the kitchen. Luckily I was not in the room at the time. I had glass and beer all over the place. Anyway let them sit untill they stopped hissing, and replaced the tops with new sanitized ones and let them sit some more. I can't recall the old beer commercial, but the scene on my counter was right out of the talking beer bottle skit. For about a half hour the new tops would sit there and flap open and closed. Once they stopped I sealed the tops. I cracked one open the other night and it still had a huge almost uncotrollable head. I'm down to just over a six pack, so hopefully I've defused them from bombing until I can drink all of them.
 
raceskier said:
…I cracked one open the other night and it still had a huge almost uncontrollable head…

Yeah…I didn’t think just a recap would knock enough gas out.

Oh well. When you get down to the last few, try pouring the bottle(s) into a pitcher and then re-pouring into a glass.
 
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