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LiquidLunch5211

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I am looking to build a kegarator. I have looked at many mini fridges. I need help on a few items... What is the recommended size to fit 2 corny kegs inside? Also if I buy a fridge with the freezer on the upper part of the fridge should that be removed or find one without a freezer?
Any help would be great
 
How much are you looking to spend? I converted a chest freezer into a 4 tap kegerator...but it was somewhat costly...
 
Just to give you an idea of what I spent....and how it added up quickly:

Chest Freezer $300
2 Stainless Double Towers $300 for both
2 co2 tanks $200 for both
2 Dual regulators $100 for both
Don't remember how much for Drip trays, beer line etc.

I know I could have done this way cheaper but I didn't want to and am now glad that I didn't. I bought most of it from www.beveragefactory.com I lived close by so I didn't have to pay for shipping. Hope this helps....
 
If I don't use a chest freezer and use a mini fridge what size is recommended and is the freezer on the top going to be a problem? Do people leave them and have room for a corny or should I look for one without that freezer. I just need a small fridge with a double tower.
I know there was a thread with pictures of peoples kegorators but I cant find it.
Thanks
 
LiquidLunch5211 said:
If I don't use a chest freezer and use a mini fridge what size is recommended and is the freezer on the top going to be a problem? Do people leave them and have room for a corny or should I look for one without that freezer. I just need a small fridge with a double tower.
I know there was a thread with pictures of peoples kegorators but I cant find it.
Thanks

Just a normal household under the counter fridge will work fine with room in it for ur 2 kegs and ur gas bottle and one with a freezer on top will work fine aswell with taps that mount on the door
 
I'm not a home brew expert by any stretch of the imagination.......but a kegerator, I've got that down pretty good. To start with, you aren't likely to find a mini fridge that will be easily convertible into a keg fridge. They have two problems, first the compressor hump in the bottom, and also the "freezer" up top. The freezer area is actually the coils that cool the entire thing. Find for a garage fridge for cans, but not much else. There just isn't enough space in these things to do much with them.

The most inexpensive route you can go is a standard fridge conversion. I've been using the same gear since 2000 (purchased used off of ebay then). It has been moved around from fridge to fridge on several occasional, actually had it installed in a university owned fridge when in college. With this setup, you have plenty of space for a full size 1/2 barrel, or a huge variety of smaller commercial or corney kegs. Conversion kits will vary from $130-$200. A standard top/bottom kitchen style fridge freezer combination can be had from Craigslist for under 150 bucks in most cases, you just have to build a platform to support the keg, the factory shelf won't be up to the task.

The one thing I will recommended before considering any conversion kit purchase is to figure out your local CO2 situation before you buy. You are going to have to get your bottle filled at a welding supply shop or possibly a fire extinguisher or paint ball supply store. Shops that will actually fill a bottle can be scarce at times, those that do fills on site have a tendency to make you wait to get the fill done. What I did was to pick up a 10 lb tank from my local welding supply shop, cost was $50.00 or so if I remember correctly. When time for a new tank comes, just give them a few bucks and they swap it out, no waiting. If it is going to be pain for fills, no need to pay for the 5lb bottle included with many kits. Besides, going with a bigger tank isn't all that expensive, and you don't have to get it filled nearly as often.

On my standard fridge conversion, I put the tap (going to be 2 taps in the next few days) through the sidewall rather than the door. This keeps from having any lines moving around when you open or close the door, and also retains full use of the fridge door for storage. Once my 2nd faucet/shank comes in, I will be set up to have two beers on tap, plus 3 more under CO2 pressure for carbonation. The freezer is nice for keeping frosted Pints/Mugs, ice, ect. Once note I will add here, if you are using corneys, keeping uniform post types will allow you to switch which beer is being served in seconds, you have to burn a couple ounces of beer remaining in the line. I am actually planning on putting a ball lock post coming off of my commercial coupler so that I can put it in and out of service as needed. Home brew is great, but personally I love keeping the option open to have a light weight domestic on tap for parties. Regardless, I would at least set up for 2 faucets. I don't mind anyone drinking my good beer, but if it isn't their thing and they would rather drink the cheap stuff, fine by me.

Below is a picture of my setup, I have about $350.00 total in it, including the fridge. You can easily go with a more attractive fridge if being used inside the house. For garage duty, this serves quite well. Another easy option is the freezer conversions, basically just have to add a tower or collar to a standard fridge conversion kit, plus a conversion thermostat.

Oh, most important thing to know about having a kegerator in the garage. If your neighbor knows the code to the garage door keypad, they are going to invade your beer supply, and probably be playing darts in your garage when you get home from work......most days of the week.

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autobaun70 said:
I'm not a home brew expert by any stretch of the imagination.......but a kegerator, I've got that down pretty good. To start with, you aren't likely to find a mini fridge that will be easily convertible into a keg fridge. They have two problems, first the compressor hump in the bottom, and also the "freezer" up top. The freezer area is actually the coils that cool the entire thing. Find for a garage fridge for cans, but not much else. There just isn't enough space in these things to do much with them.

The most inexpensive route you can go is a standard fridge conversion. I've been using the same gear since 2000 (purchased used off of ebay then). It has been moved around from fridge to fridge on several occasional, actually had it installed in a university owned fridge when in college. With this setup, you have plenty of space for a full size 1/2 barrel, or a huge variety of smaller commercial or corney kegs. Conversion kits will vary from $130-$200. A standard top/bottom kitchen style fridge freezer combination can be had from Craigslist for under 150 bucks in most cases, you just have to build a platform to support the keg, the factory shelf won't be up to the task.

The one thing I will recommended before considering any conversion kit purchase is to figure out your local CO2 situation before you buy. You are going to have to get your bottle filled at a welding supply shop or possibly a fire extinguisher or paint ball supply store. Shops that will actually fill a bottle can be scarce at times, those that do fills on site have a tendency to make you wait to get the fill done. What I did was to pick up a 10 lb tank from my local welding supply shop, cost was $50.00 or so if I remember correctly. When time for a new tank comes, just give them a few bucks and they swap it out, no waiting. If it is going to be pain for fills, no need to pay for the 5lb bottle included with many kits. Besides, going with a bigger tank isn't all that expensive, and you don't have to get it filled nearly as often.

On my standard fridge conversion, I put the tap (going to be 2 taps in the next few days) through the sidewall rather than the door. This keeps from having any lines moving around when you open or close the door, and also retains full use of the fridge door for storage. Once my 2nd faucet/shank comes in, I will be set up to have two beers on tap, plus 3 more under CO2 pressure for carbonation. The freezer is nice for keeping frosted Pints/Mugs, ice, ect. Once note I will add here, if you are using corneys, keeping uniform post types will allow you to switch which beer is being served in seconds, you have to burn a couple ounces of beer remaining in the line. I am actually planning on putting a ball lock post coming off of my commercial coupler so that I can put it in and out of service as needed. Home brew is great, but personally I love keeping the option open to have a light weight domestic on tap for parties. Regardless, I would at least set up for 2 faucets. I don't mind anyone drinking my good beer, but if it isn't their thing and they would rather drink the cheap stuff, fine by me.

Below is a picture of my setup, I have about $350.00 total in it, including the fridge. You can easily go with a more attractive fridge if being used inside the house. For garage duty, this serves quite well. Another easy option is the freezer conversions, basically just have to add a tower or collar to a standard fridge conversion kit, plus a conversion thermostat.

Oh, most important thing to know about having a kegerator in the garage. If your neighbor knows the code to the garage door keypad, they are going to invade your beer supply, and probably be playing darts in your garage when you get home from work......most days of the week.

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I agree with u but u can get the undercounted fridge without freezer in it he only wants it for 2 kegs so the compressor hump will b ok the co2 cylinder would sit nicely on it that's what I use, and the fridge with freezer on top I was thinking of the 3/4 fridge- freezer models I got my undercounted fridge with no freezer in it at Argos in Ireland for 100 euro
 
I agree with u but u can get the undercounted fridge without freezer in it he only wants it for 2 kegs so the compressor hump will b ok the co2 cylinder would sit nicely on it that's what I use, and the fridge with freezer on top I was thinking of the 3/4 fridge- freezer models I got my undercounted fridge with no freezer in it at Argos in Ireland for 100 euro

I understand completely, the cool factor of a tower on the counter top is tough to beat. My only holdup on a setup like that is that I know I would never be satisfied with only 2 kegs. With the amount of time it takes to get a keg aged and carbed, to me having the capacity for 3-4 at a minimum is vital. Also, I wouldn't want to be restricted to only using corneys. To each there own, just keep in mind when designing a system to analyze the negatives to any given design you come up with along with the up sides to be sure it is going fit your needs in addition to your space.
 
I'm in no stretch of the imagination super experienced with building your own kegerator but I went through the same thing a a year ago trying to decide what to get.
The biggest difficulty I found was trying to find a large enough mini-fridge. You can see at micromatic.com the basic heights and diameters for different kegs. I found that local places like lowes, home depot, wal-mart, etc. didn't have a mini fridge that would be tall enough to fit the cornies (especially with that freezer up top). Since I wanted it to stay inside and take minimal room I just ended up purchasing a prebuilt one from micromatic that holds 2 corny kegs plus CO2. Shipping a large enough fridge plus all the parts came out to be almost what I paid for from Micromatic for prebuilt..maybe a $100 cheaper but I didn't mind counting that as labor expense.
If it doesn't bother you the thing being out in the garage or you have the space inside then by far the best route would be chest freezer or refridgerator. They can hold more than just 2 corny kegs and normally you'll quickly want to have more space (I already do) if not for serving than at least for storage of beer. This is a good link for sizing up a chest freezer Sizing your chest freezer Look on craigslist and usually there are a bunch of old fridges/freezers for really cheap (a lot cheaper than my prebuilt kegerator). Also, Be careful with drilling through refridgerators as alot of times they can have cooling coils running through the walls (the door sometimes too but I believe this is much less common). Chest freezers are about the same with coils in the sides but most people build a collar and just put the shanks through that.
It was worth it to me to buy the kegerator premade because of the minimal size, simplicity (I didn't want to do anything crazy like run beer lines from garage to inside), and how it has nice professional look but I am definitly going to upgrade and build a keezer in the garage so I can store beer and have more than just two kegs ready to go.
 
differently make sure u size up the inside. A couple weeks back I ordered a kit to make my college fridge into a kegorator and when i started the build i realized that the freezer shelf is the way the fridge is cooled. so its not able to be removed. like most people are saying, i went with a chest freezer. This way u can also start cheap and just use picnic taps for a while and then upgrade as you have the money.
 
Thanks for your help and very nice fridge setup. I am the owner of a fire protection company and stock 2 tons of CO2 in bulk so the CO2 and tanks are not an issue for me, the issue is,the mini fridge works for me perfect due to the space I have. Is is possible to remove the freezer portion or buy one with no freezer in it? I have not seen one with no freezer. Any one have any links or stores that would be a good place to start looking?
Thanks
 
This might be your best bet. Bout the largest "mini" fridge I could find. However I distrust measurements especially since it doesn't specify if it's the interior dimensions or exterior. My kegerator is about that size and its decently tight squeeze. I might be worried that it gives exterior dimensions and inside it becomes too small for kegs.
 
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Thanks again guys. I have found a few Sanyo fridges that have no freezer at all. I only need it to fit 2 cornys and the CO2 tank. I am still researching and taking more measurements. I only have a certain amount of room in my basement bar. I know there is a thread floating around with pictures of peoples homemade kegarators just can't find it.
 
I got this compact / mini-fridge from target a few weeks back. Right now I'm using it to Lagger but am fully confident that it will work as a double kegerator when I'm done. It takes a bit of modifying but it was all pretty easy. The "Freezer" was nothing more than a couple screws and the layout allows you to put a hole in the top for a tower it you wish. (I saw another guy do it on here with the same fridge but can't seem to find the post again. He went between the ridges on the top and make it out clear without running into any lines.)

The door panel has to come off but again that is nothing more than a bunch of little screws behind the gasket which peels back very easy. I replaced it with a sheet of oak for looks but the door is plenty insulated to keep it off. A replacement panel helps attach the gasket again correctly though.

Other than the draws slide out very easily.The ridges they rest on have to be cut off to fit two kegs and the Co2, but since you'll probably run the co2 from the outside you may not need to do that, even so, the other guy cut them off with a paring knife.

Buying locally it was the only fridge that worked for me but so far it's working extremely well. I was nervous from the bad reviews on the target website but I have had no such problems...

Also, 4.4 cu.ft. is the magic number for a double kegerator according to most threads on here. The Emerson is 4.6.


Here's the link
 
Don't get scared by these guys that go over the top. It's too easy to do what your thinking and keep it reasonable size and price...

Here is a helpful link:

http://www.kegkits.com/kegerator4.htm

Greysteele your mailbox is full so I will leave you a message here RE: Stainless Towers ----QUOTE=GreySteele06]
Kegcowboy said:
Not until Tuesday- what we have today is Chrome

Those SS dual tap towers ever arrive?[/QUOTE]

They were supposed to be here between today and the end of the week. We got notice (still unconfirmed) that they are delayed and will now be here TUESDAY next week - sorry to string you along but I am working off the best information that I have - Sorry again.- Jeff Woodruff
 
I totally agree with GreySteele06 on this one. Do what works best for your space and your budget. I started my build a month or so ago and as it has evolved, it has now costed me close to $1000. Yes, I am one of the one's that may have gone a little "over the top" with mine, but I'm happy with it. When I started out, I got a great deal on a new chest freezer from a guy on CL. I had left over materials from my basement build and I was planning on a basic 3 keg/tap system, so I told my wife that I could build the thing for no more that $600. It's still not done and I'm sure I'll be into it for at least double my original budget. After "upgrading" it a 4 keg/3 tap system with all stainless components and Perlick tap handles/shanks., buying a dual input/dual output Love Control, coffin cooling fans, etc., etc. it has added up quickly.

It's really easy to read through the threads of some fantastic kegerator/ keezer builds on HBT and talk yourself into incorporating various components and systems to make it higher quality and more efficient. There really are some brilliant people on HBT that have spectacular ideas and designs, but you better be ready to open your wallet if you want to incorporate many of them into your build. I'm living proof! Like many of the DIY projects on HBT, it's very easy to blow your budget out of the water if your not careful. Thankfully the budgetary side of things isn't a big concern for me, but if my wife knew exactly how much I have spent thus far, she would flip! :D

Good luck! Whatever you decide to build.....as long as it dispenses cold, carbonated beer, it will be a masterpiece in my mind. Cheers! :mug:

Don't get scared by these guys that go over the top. It's too easy to do what your thinking and keep it reasonable size and price...

Here is a helpful link:

http://www.kegkits.com/kegerator4.htm
 
I got a GE minifridge for free with a freezer section. I had to trim out the shelf support and remove the door casing and I could fit 2 ball lock kegs and a 5# co2 tank, or 1 pin lock and 1 ball lock and a co2 tank. I don't think I can fit two pin locks but that isn't a big deal.

I just bent the freezer section down with no problem (just have to go slow). I'm almost to the point of having it completely finished so I haven't tested out how well it cools but I doubt it will have many problems.

In short, if you are looking at the minifridge route, just find a cheap one on craigslist. You can find those for less than $30 if you're patient. And if worse comes to worse, you are only out $30 if they don't fit and you could probably just turn around and sell it. But my guess is any minifridge over 4 cu ft will be able to fit a couple cornies with a little modification.
 
Hey LiquidLunch5211.....Finally finished my keezer build. Here's a pic. It's one of those desgins that you either love it or hate it! Hope your kegerator is going welll!!! :mug:
 
I have one problem, this unit is a freezer and the temp inside is below 32 degrees. SO the brew keeps freezing if I don't turn it off. Anyone have any advise, I know they make a plug in thermostat is that the best alternative? Thanks
 
Looks great! You need to overide the freezer theromstat with an external temperature controller. There are 100's of threads for temperature controllers on HBT, but unless you put a temp. controller into the mix.....your beer will continue to freeze, because you are using a chest freezer. I used a Dual Input/Dual Output Love Controller, but you would simply need a Single Input/Single Output Controller. They are not terribly expensive, maybe $70 to $80 and are requried to get a freezer operating as a refrigerator.

Basically, something like this should do the trick and would save you from having to wire your own.

www.amazon.com/Johnson-Controls-Digital-Thermostat-Control/dp/B00368D6JA/ref=pd_cp_hi_0

The two biggest players seem to be Dwyer Love Controllers and Ranco Controllers. Some are ready to go....just plug the freezer into the controller, plug the controller into the wall, drop the temperature probe into the chest freezer and set the temperature. Mine was more complicated, but with a basic set up like you have.....keep it simple. :mug:
 
I bought that thermostat controller and it works great! Well worth the $80.00, brew stays fresh and perfect temp. Thanks
 
Looking for more ideas to scale up the way my fridge looks. Anyone who wants to post a picture of theirs would be appreciated.
 
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