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If this is true, Bells now for me is 11.20 out the door with deposit now it will be 12.20 for a damn sixpack. Nice
 
I've had Dark Horse's Crooked Tree IPA. Excellent brew. Just have trouble finding it on a regular basis. I'd buy more of it if I could.

Three Floyds Alpha King 6packs are up in price from around 8.99 to around 10.49 - 10.99 in the Chicago area.
 
Wow, I commend the authors on their thorough journalism. I really appreciate in-depth coverage such as this. In other news, Iraq going badly.

In any case, it's a good thing I have 27 cases in my basement and 25 gallons in carboys. :D
 
Evan! said:
Wow, I commend the authors on their thorough journalism. I really appreciate in-depth coverage such as this. In other news, Iraq going badly.

In any case, it's a good thing I have 27 cases in my basement and 25 gallons in carboys. :D

Orfy said:
What is the source?

I don't take notice of gossip like that.

Pardon me if my original post did not reach the level of journalistic integrity that you 2 seem to require.

I'll try to do better next time.

How about this one, any better?

http://media.www.michigandaily.com/.../Why-Youre.Paying.More.For.Beer-3163372.shtml
 
abracadabra said:
Hold on to you wallets this is just the beginning.

Several articles like this appeared yesterday.

So who buys beer any more? :D

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I bought beer, other than at a bar or pub. Very little of it holds a candle to my homebrew anyhow.
 
BlindLemonLars said:
So who buys beer any more? :D

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I bought beer, other than at a bar or pub. Very little of it holds a candle to my homebrew anyhow.


Me too, its probably been 9 months or more since I bought a case, closing in on a year now..
 
BlindLemonLars said:
So who buys beer any more? :D

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I bought beer, other than at a bar or pub. Very little of it holds a candle to my homebrew anyhow.

Apparently a great number of homebrewers according to this thread:

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?t=53744


31 out of 46 responses said that yes they buy commercial beer only 2 said no.
 
Why should this be a surprise? We homebrewers have been paying higher prices for ingredients for months. It was only a matter of time before the commercial brewers had no choice but to raise their prices as well.


Oh, and I still buy commercial, too.
 
im buying about 10 lbs of hops soon and a few hundred pounds of grains. SHould be set for a bit
 
BlindLemonLars said:
So who buys beer any more? :D

Honestly, I can't remember the last time I bought beer, other than at a bar or pub. Very little of it holds a candle to my homebrew anyhow.

Depends on the in stock situation. I have not had time to brew for a couple months. Either the weather sucks, or I'm tied up doing something else. I'm not too concerned as I have cut way back on consumption after drinking mass quantities over the holidays and gaining mass weight. :D

On the other hand, my local grocery store always has something on sale. When the price for craft brew drops to $5.99 a sixer, I usually will pick it up to try it out. I can also get Sierra Nevada Pale by the case at Sam's club or Costco for about $18.99.
 
Bernie Brewer said:
Why should this be a surprise? We homebrewers have been paying higher prices for ingredients for months. It was only a matter of time before the commercial brewers had no choice but to raise their prices as well.


Oh, and I still buy commercial, too.

The thing is that most (smart) breweries have hop price contracts so if we see super high prices, then either they are gouging the consumer or didn't have a contract. Grain has gone up somewhat, but not enough to merit huge price hikes.

I still buy commercial as well.
 
zoebisch01 said:
The thing is that most (smart) breweries have hop price contracts so if we see super high prices, then either they are gouging the consumer or didn't have a contract. Grain has gone up somewhat, but not enough to merit huge price hikes.

I still buy commercial as well.


Yes, but even contracts don't last forever.
 
My local liquor store has 6pks of sierra nevada pale for 7.20, I went to Whole Foods this weekend for the first time with the wife (just to see their beer supply :p ), and they have it for 9.60!

Dont know if the price is going up or whole foods is gouging their customers eyes out. Time will tell.
 
abracadabra said:
Apparently a great number of homebrewers according to this thread:

31 out of 46 responses said that yes they buy commercial beer only 2 said no.

Yeah I saw that thread. I must say, it came as a surprise to me, but the numbers don't lie.
 
It's a bit long but anywho:

A Treatise and an Appeal or How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love Craft Brew, At Any Price (posted 11/12/07)

OK, here it is, your inside the industry explanation of the ridiculus price increases in Craft Brew that you are going to see very soon. I’ll explain what’s happened to the price of Malt and Hops and why, what can be done about it, and why you are going to see prices jump likely between 15 and 25% on the retail end for Craft brews in a matter of weeks. I’ll then finish with an appeal to all craft brew fans for continued support. We need it now more than ever to get through this rough period and not lose any more quality craft breweries, which could likely happen to some you might not expect.

I own and operate Weyerbacher Brewing Co. (with partners) in Easton, PA, so you’re getting info straight from the brewery. In late September I was told by another brewery that malt was going up about 40% and hops 30 to 40%. I started calling suppliers and they confirmed this was true, and also that they have no prices locked in yet. Additionally, I was informed that many farmers are not honoring their contracts to the fullest extent (don’t blame the farmers please) due to the crazy price situation that’s evolving in crop farming, with corn being twice the price it was last year.

What does corn have to do with it? Our supplier tells us that with Uncle Sam’s push for and financial support for ethanol the price for corn has doubled and many farmers grew corn instead of barley this year. In the UK, where the EU has also required ethanol production, rape seed is the crop of choice and again, a lot more profitable than growing barley and wheat. Couple this with bad weather and growing conditions this year and in Europe and you have a crisis in barley supply. We were told this was coming in early summer, but we assumed our malt company might have meant a 10 to 15% increase in price, not this. When we finally got nailed down pricing last week, one malt price was up 45% and the other up 56%. Plus, we were told to be happy that we’re able to get the supply (with growth) that we’ve asked for. Some brewers will not be so lucky

Now for Hops. A glut of hops on the market in the mid-90s, caused a 10 year decline in hops acreage and hops farmers throughout the world. Each year more acreage dwindled and it didn’t matter as there was still an oversupply of hops. Beginning perhaps 2 to 4 years ago, the astounding success and strength of the craft brew industry put a big dent in the overage, but prices stayed essentially the same and farmers didn’t have incentive to plant more. Throw in the runaway success of Double IPAs (and bigger) and we’ve jumped up the demand again for those fragrant cones. Sooner or later something had to give. And its happened last month. Rather than going up 30 or 40% as expected, US and European hops have gone up 400%!! That’s not a typo, 400%. There is not enough to go around. Weyerbacher has our supply lined up, but some recipes may require a few substitutions in hops due to lack of supply of some varieties. In a recent Wall Street Journal article on this problem, Larry Bell of Kalamazoo brewing and Jim Koch of Sam Adams were also quoted as saying they would probably have to alter a few recipes.

There simply is no choice for some breweries.

Some Craft breweries have locked in contracts for several years for supply, but they’re still going to see the price increase sooner or later. Many farmers are not honoring contracts.
So where does this bring us? These price increases for Malt and Hops alone amount to a minimum price increase from Weyerbacher to wholesaler of 12 to 14% and it gets worse on the beers that use a lot of hops. Many of our beers will increase about $2.50 per case. Our ingredient cost for Hops Infusion IPA has risen $3.94, so we will raise the price $4.00 per case. Its typical for a business to markup a certained fixed amount from cost, so typically this $4.00 would result in a higher markup to keep our margins this same, but you can see why we can’t do that. When you reach for that 4 pack of Double Simcoe IPA in the New Year, don’t be surprised if its $2.00 to $2.50 higher. Our ingredient cost on this hop bomb went up $8.14 per case. You can see where this is going. Many BIG beers not heavy on the hops will go up perhaps 3 or 4 dollars due to the malt increase.

It gets better. A price increase at the brewery of 10 to 15%, just to cover costs, no gouging whatsoever, will result in a price increase at retail of 20 to 25%.
So that’s it in a nutshell. The Associated Press and The Wall Street Journal have both written separate articles on this subject in the past 3 weeks.

While not officially speaking for the industry, I hope other breweries will join Weyerbacher in an appeal to beer geeks everywhere for their continued support of our industry. We need you now more than ever if we are to continue making great beer. When hops are short and the big 3 industrial brewers will pay anything (almost) to get their hands on them, we need you the consumer to come to a full understanding of what’s going on in our industry.

Many craft breweries just get by, with employees typically working 50 to 60 hour weeks, most of whom would not feel they are overpaid. Fuel goes up, glass goes up, cardboard goes up every year, and somehow we have to deal with it. We’ll be OK here, but some breweries may not. We simply ask for your understanding about why the prices have gone up. Thanks for your fantastic support in the past and your (hopefully) continued support in the future. Cheers!

Dan Weirback, President
Weyerbacher Brewing Co., Inc
http://www.weyerbacher.com/cwo/Home
 
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