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While not directly related to punk music if SOPA or PIPA pass we won't have a website to talk about music on. All these videos that have been posted would not be allowed. The internet as you know it would cease to exist. Certain websites have already begun protesting today. Check it out!

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Don't let your freedoms slip away. Please repost these links and the following link anywhere and everywhere you can. Write to your congress men and women. Let them know the people don't want this!

SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site
 
While not directly related to punk music if SOPA or PIPA pass we won't have a website to talk about music on. All these videos that have been posted would not be allowed. The internet as you know it would cease to exist. Certain websites have already begun protesting today. Check it out!

Boing Boing
craigslist: phoenix classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events
https://www.google.com/
Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Don't let your freedoms slip away. Please repost these links and the following link anywhere and everywhere you can. Write to your congress men and women. Let them know the people don't want this!

SOPA STRIKE - Largest online protest in history - January 18 - blackout your site

The bills have been pulled. For now this is a huge victory for the people!

CEA Hails Congressional Decision to Pull Votes on SOPA and PIPA - Yahoo! Finance
 
To be enjoyed tonight, first and only comeback show by some old "crust" band.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz6QwVef-yg]Rajoitus - Hardcore Attack - YouTube[/ame]
 
My band played a show in Martinsburg, WV last night.

The guys that booked us hit me up on Tuesday to inform me that our two punk bands would be performing with two "hip hop artists" and that he just found out. We deliberated a bit and decided to play it anyway. First time for everything, I guess.

So, the show was pretty crappy with no locals on the lineup.

The "hip hop artists" were pretty pathetic. It was karaoke if you ask me. They both did three songs in which they played a pre-recorded song and rapped along with it. I can't believe that people even ask to play shows when that is all they do and they only have ten minutes of material at that.

To make matters worse, the jackasses left right before my set. This is after I stood there and clapped and supported their garbage. Sometimes, it really doesn't pay to be nice.

The guy that booked us was pretty irritated as well. He told me that they were planning to kick their drummer out because of his booking ineptitude among other issues.

Eh. We have some better shows coming up so I'll just chalk this up as another lesson in life.
 
My band played a show in Martinsburg, WV last night.

The guys that booked us hit me up on Tuesday to inform me that our two punk bands would be performing with two "hip hop artists" and that he just found out. We deliberated a bit and decided to play it anyway. First time for everything, I guess.

So, the show was pretty crappy with no locals on the lineup.

The "hip hop artists" were pretty pathetic. It was karaoke if you ask me. They both did three songs in which they played a pre-recorded song and rapped along with it. I can't believe that people even ask to play shows when that is all they do and they only have ten minutes of material at that.

To make matters worse, the jackasses left right before my set. This is after I stood there and clapped and supported their garbage. Sometimes, it really doesn't pay to be nice.

The guy that booked us was pretty irritated as well. He told me that they were planning to kick their drummer out because of his booking ineptitude among other issues.

Eh. We have some better shows coming up so I'll just chalk this up as another lesson in life.

:D Oh it sounds all too familiar. I was in a touring band for almost 5 years. We played an average of close to 150 shows a year. You have no clue how many times I've had to deal with this.

The worst part about playing shows is dealing with the promoters. ESPECIALLY the ones who don't know they're supposed to promote.
 
My band played a show in Martinsburg, WV last night.

The guys that booked us hit me up on Tuesday to inform me that our two punk bands would be performing with two "hip hop artists" and that he just found out. We deliberated a bit and decided to play it anyway. First time for everything, I guess.

So, the show was pretty crappy with no locals on the lineup.

The "hip hop artists" were pretty pathetic. It was karaoke if you ask me. They both did three songs in which they played a pre-recorded song and rapped along with it. I can't believe that people even ask to play shows when that is all they do and they only have ten minutes of material at that.

To make matters worse, the jackasses left right before my set. This is after I stood there and clapped and supported their garbage. Sometimes, it really doesn't pay to be nice.

The guy that booked us was pretty irritated as well. He told me that they were planning to kick their drummer out because of his booking ineptitude among other issues.

Eh. We have some better shows coming up so I'll just chalk this up as another lesson in life.

I couldn't disagree more with this post. What difference does it make who is on the lineup before or after you? Why do you feel the need to minimize the music of other bands in order to validate yours? Most modern music festivals have a wide variety of styles often playing back to back, and in any event you will find some bands you like and some bands you don't. It's your job as a band to stand out from the others and leave a lasting impression. In some ways it is better for you to be playing with bands who's music is less impressive then yours, as you get the chance to be the best act of the night.

From an earlier reply: "The worst part about playing shows is dealing with the promoters. ESPECIALLY the ones who don't know they're supposed to promote"

Unfortunately I have to disagree with this also. As someone who has promoted shows in the past (though not recently) I was amazed at how many bands just expected to do nothing, show up and play, and have a great audience and response. These bands were often disappointed after the fact that they did not receive the promotion they were expecting. As a band it is YOUR responsibility to promote yourself and your music. Don't leave this in other peoples hands. Promoters give you an opportunity to play and a chance to be heard, they do not SELL your music for you. You need to do this yourself!

I had a friend several years ago who started a band, and they were pretty good. I gave him multiple chances to play at different events and never found him to be very interested. He often would complain about having to drive to the gig, not having a good time slot, and not being paid enough. He also would do nothing to promote the events and afterwards would ask me why he did not see enough promotion about them. Needless to say he is no longer playing music.

It's no different then staring your own small business. Would you start a business and expect others to promote it and get you customers? Or if you start a website do you expect others to spread your link around?
 
Not that anyone would know us, but back in the 80's I was the drummer for a band called Terminal Illness. We were a hardcore/skate punk band. We played lots of garage's all over New Orleans. At the peak of the skate scene, there were tons of half pipes all over the area and we would play for hours while people skated and slam danced all over the place. All we wanted was beer for payment.
 
From an earlier reply: "The worst part about playing shows is dealing with the promoters. ESPECIALLY the ones who don't know they're supposed to promote"

Unfortunately I have to disagree with this also. As someone who has promoted shows in the past (though not recently) I was amazed at how many bands just expected to do nothing, show up and play, and have a great audience and response. These bands were often disappointed after the fact that they did not receive the promotion they were expecting. As a band it is YOUR responsibility to promote yourself and your music. Don't leave this in other peoples hands. Promoters give you an opportunity to play and a chance to be heard, they do not SELL your music for you. You need to do this yourself!

I had a friend several years ago who started a band, and they were pretty good. I gave him multiple chances to play at different events and never found him to be very interested. He often would complain about having to drive to the gig, not having a good time slot, and not being paid enough. He also would do nothing to promote the events and afterwards would ask me why he did not see enough promotion about them. Needless to say he is no longer playing music.

It's no different then staring your own small business. Would you start a business and expect others to promote it and get you customers? Or if you start a website do you expect others to spread your link around?

It's one thing to put your music online via myspace, facebook, purevolume, etc. However, how can you expect a band from Delaware to pass out flyers and spread the word for a show in California? I can see your point if you're doing a show for local bands since geographically it works out. However, for touring bands it doesn't work that way, that's why you're called a promoter. You're supposed to PROMOTE the show. If that's the way you do business it's no wonder you don't promote shows anymore.
 
Not that anyone would know us, but back in the 80's I was the drummer for a band called Terminal Illness. We were a hardcore/skate punk band. We played lots of garage's all over New Orleans. At the peak of the skate scene, there were tons of half pipes all over the area and we would play for hours while people skated and slam danced all over the place. All we wanted was beer for payment.

Any links to your music?

Seconded.
 
I don't promote shows anymore by my choise : ), busy doing other things. And I still don't agree with your point. Some of the most respected musicians in the business don't agree with you either.

If you know anything about bass players you should know who Mike Watt is. He has had a very long career and he is extremely well respected and he is one of the hardest working players in music. He personally promotes his bands/music himself and even after thousands of gigs and collaborations with many of the top artists in music he still takes the time to respond on a personal level to many of his fans and to publicize each of his gigs himself. He is just one example out of many established musicians who take their promotion into their own hands.

Stephen Perkins is anther example. He has drummed for Jane's Addiction, Porno for Pyros, Infectious Groovs, Banyan and others and has been a part of bands who have sold millions of records but he still promotes his bands and shows regularly.

If you are in a band and you have the attitude you are describing then any success you have is a bonus and you should be very thankful for it.
 
how can you expect a band from Delaware to pass out flyers and spread the word for a show in California?

Passing out flyers is just one way to promote a show. And if the band from Delaware took seriously their career they would have a website and a mailing list where they can post a PDF of all of their upcoming show flyers and ask the fans to print and post them.

I never said I did not do any promoting for the shows I put on, but that is none of the bands business and if a band is expecting the promoter to gain attention for them then they are putting their careers in the hands of other people instead of themselves. In today's 'connected' world there is really no excuse to neglect your own interests.
 
Passing out flyers is just one way to promote a show. And if the band from Delaware took seriously their career they would have a website and a mailing list where they can post a PDF of all of their upcoming show flyers and ask the fans to print and post them.

I never said I did not do any promoting for the shows I put on, but that is none of the bands business and if a band is expecting the promoter to gain attention for them then they are putting their careers in the hands of other people instead of themselves. In today's 'connected' world there is really no excuse to neglect your own interests.

I never said bands shouldn't self promote. As a matter of fact I even mentioned posting information online so as to get the info to your fans. However, if you were "promoting" shows, but not doing any promotion it sounds like you were just paying a few hundred bucks for a show space and trying to make some quick cash by not doing anything.

I used to do weekly shows. I wasn't just doing local shows either, I'd bring in well known bands. I was doing shows for bands on the level of Bigwig and I against I, but you can damn well bet your ass I was out there spreading the word, making flyers, standing outside of record stores and coffee shops, making sure people knew about it. Hell, I was driving to Cincinnati and Columbus from Dayton and passing out flyers there for some of the bigger names. The point is I actually promoted because it was my job.

Once again yes, the band should promote themselves, but it's a promoter's job to promote. That's why they're called promoters. If you disagree, that's fine, but I'm not willing to ruin a good thread by someone getting pissed off. Therefore, before this gets heated I'm going to agree to disagree.

Please have a lovely night/day dependent on when you read this.
 
The following is my punk rock history as it relates to home brewing...


https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/mohawks-make-beer-301247/


It really only makes sense that there are so many old scenesters who are into home brewing...

Welcome. I'm glad you found it. Feel free to share any punk stories, videos of bands you like, etc. We're pretty civil in here despite all being old (and some young) punk rockers.
 
Speaking of old farts (who still play the occasional live show no less...)

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And while we're at it, more old farts who I'm glad I got to see live while I still could...


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I don't judge people for what they do or what they believe, but I couldn't hang out with anyone who's racist. There is no reason for hating someone based on what color or culture they are.
 
Misfits
PIL
Rudimentary Penii
Sham '69
Cro-Mags
DRI
Suicidal Tendencies
The Meatmen
Oblivions
The Reatards
Cock Sparrer
NOFX
Boris The Sprinkler
New Bomb Turks

Metal:

At The Gates
Napalm Death
Mastodon
Tool (yeah, yeah... say what you will)
Slayer
Nasty Savage
King Diamond
Nuclear Assault
Sepultura
 
Misfits
PIL
Rudimentary Penii
Sham '69
Cro-Mags
DRI
Suicidal Tendencies
The Meatmen
Oblivions
The Reatards
Cock Sparrer
NOFX
Boris The Sprinkler
New Bomb Turks

Metal:

At The Gates
Napalm Death
Mastodon
Tool (yeah, yeah... say what you will)
Slayer
Nasty Savage
King Diamond
Nuclear Assault
Sepultura

The wife enjoys wine. Myself, not so much. However, we'll be visiting Maynard Keenan's winery either today or tomorrow. I planned a trip up to Jerome specifically for this. She'll enjoy it and be happy. In turn, I'll be happy.
 
This was the defacto hardcore band from Eastern Washington State in the 80's. The bass player is Nate Mendle of the Foo Fighters.

 
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Another one checking in. Grew up with Social Distortion in the '80s and Rancid in the '90s. Unfortunately never did get in a band despite the fact that I play guitar and sing. Not a lot of punk bands around here I guess.
 
Punk Rock changed my life.

+1

I've drifted as I've gotten older but still rely on Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, Agnostic Front, and especially Minor Threat and 7 Seconds.

I know it doesn't fit the genre but part of my ritual before a stressful event (public toasts, presentations, interviews) is still to listen to Pantera's "Strength Beyond Strength."
 
klnosaj said:
+1

I've drifted as I've gotten older but still rely on Black Flag, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, Agnostic Front, and especially Minor Threat and 7 Seconds.

I know it doesn't fit the genre but part of my ritual before a stressful event (public toasts, presentations, interviews) is still to listen to Pantera's "Strength Beyond Strength."

Nice selection. Bad Religion is one of my favs.
 
I still have not seen them live.

I remember seeing them on a tour what must have been 10-12 years ago. Somehow they were opening for Blink-182 (maybe if it was the other way around I wouldn't still be pissed about it a decade later). Half us left when Bad Relgion's set was over.
 
I remember seeing them on a tour what must have been 10-12 years ago. Somehow they were opening for Blink-182 (maybe if it was the other way around I wouldn't still be pissed about it a decade later). Half us left when Bad Relgion's set was over.

Haha, awesome. I remember going to a show that Blink 182 was headlining just to see the opening bands. I'd have to break out my photo album of ticket stubs to remember who I went to see though. Back then it was every week that I was going to shows.
 
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