Wife got a new toy!

Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum

Help Support Homebrew Talk - Beer, Wine, Mead, & Cider Brewing Discussion Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.

Mach

Member
Joined
Oct 18, 2007
Messages
19
Reaction score
0
So I'm just getting into homebrewing, and my wife wanted to try her hand at making cider (her preferred drink). She picked up this fine piece of equipment for a steal yesterday at an auction:
SMALL_DSC_0489.jpg


Everything but the handle was there and surprisingly clean and sharp, so we decided to break it in right (used a ratchet for the handle). We cleaned it inside and out last night, including all of the auxiliary equipment (bucket thingies, wooden press thingies, etc). This morning we soaked the whole thing in Star-san as well as a 5gallon glass carboy and the transfer pans/funnels. Then we filled her up and cranked away. This thing makes a bucket of apple slop in a hurry, and the press is still in good shape and turns that slop into juice and applebiscuits in no time. We squeezed a bushel of empire apples and a bushel of golden delicious for our first mix. The juice coming out tasted amazing:
SMALL_DSC_0504.jpg


Out of the two bushels, we got about 6 gallons (more than I expected). The first 5 went through a strainer into the carboy to become hard cider.
SMALL_DSC_0493.jpg


The other gallon is getting ready to disappear. This is really good stuff. Pasteurization sucks!

We're going to try to make this first batch without sulfides (I think). We added about 2 lbs of dextrose to the bottle and a packet of montrachet yeast to the carboy and gave it a good shake. After about 2 hours, it blew the rubber stopper and airlock out of the carboy. I put it back on with less vodka in it so that it hopefully bubbles instead of pops off. So far so good!

So who thinks that we'll get skunked nasty cider? That old cider mill/press has about a million places to add contaminants to the juice. I'd like to try to avoid sulfides, but I don't want to throw away 5 gallons of hard earned goodness.

I have all kinds of questions now. Thanks in advance for any help you guys can provide.

1. Since I'm dealing with pulverised fruit, should I rack into a secondary after a week to get the fluid off the fruit?
2. If the cider starts heading south, can I sulfide it and rack what's left into a secondary and start over?
3. Any advice for a cider novice?
 
Good score and nice pics....can I ask how much you picked it up for?

I've only made a couple ciders and they've been from store bought juice so I'll let someone else chime in. One cool thing with cider is you can do just about anything with it. Listen to the Jamil show on Cider for some ideas

:mug:
 
greenhornet said:
Good score and nice pics....can I ask how much you picked it up for?

I've only made a couple ciders and they've been from store bought juice so I'll let someone else chime in. One cool thing with cider is you can do just about anything with it. Listen to the Jamil show on Cider for some ideas

:mug:

She gave a whole 80 bucks for it. I've seen the exact same model go for well over 400 on ebay in much worse shape, so it was a deal she couldn't pass up.
 
Cheesefood said:
Very disppointed with the "toy". I was expecting something more vibratory.

Well, it shakes pretty good once you get it up to speed. The bearings are a bit loose since it's probably about 80 years old. I guess it just needs more lubrication . . .
 
Wow that is a deal! Have fun with it!!

Thats cool bc you can mix different varieties and stuff....even try some perry if you wanted
 
Awesome deal, an older press like that will last you forever...

now on to your questions...

1. Using just the cider and yeast, you will want to let it sit on the pulp for 2-4 weeks, fermentation will slow down, and you'll have almost no activity in the airlock... then rack it to secondary for about a month... then either bottle it, or rack it again into bulk aging for 3-6 months.

2. If the cider starts going south could mean any number of things... if it starts turning into vinegar, toss it immediately, and make sure to clean everything extremely well... if south means some kind of infection, that depends on the infection...

3. Advice... RDWHAHB... it's really quite hard to mess up a cider... if you didn't add any sugar to the carboy, you'll come out with about 5'ish %ABV cider... if you can (patience is a ***** with your first couple batches), let it bulk age for a couple months... the malolactic fermentation will have a chance to work it's magic, and the stuff will come out smooth and mellow... there's tons of advice, but really this covers the bases...

nice score on the press, and good luck on the cider... let us know how it turns out... :tank:
 
I checked it this morning (about 10 hours after pitching) and it's not really bubbling but the vodka is pushed the right direction in the airlock. Hopefully I'll see some action after work today. I might go ahead and get some more yeast and pitch again if there's not much activity tonight. Is it alright to pitch right into the fresh cider? I didn't do a starter or anything, just dumped it right into the carboy with the dextrose and shook it up.
 
I wonder if you could use that grinder and press for making wine as well as cider? Looks like it's in great shape. Good Luck!!:mug:
 
I checked it this morning before going to work, and it had an orange "krausen" on it (can you call it a krausen on a cider?) and the airlock was bubbling every 30 seconds or so. What's the deal with the orangeness? I've never heard of that before.
 
Cider can't skunk, you need hops for that.
Vinegaring is a slow process compared to fermentation.
A vigorous ferment can prevent many problems.
Rack it off in a week or two.
 
Well it's going buck nuts now. It just took a couple of days for the yeast to take hold but now the air lock is a bubble machine gun. It looks great, can't wait to serve some up for Thanksgiving (if it's done).
 
Mach said:
Well it's going buck nuts now. It just took a couple of days for the yeast to take hold but now the air lock is a bubble machine gun. It looks great, can't wait to serve some up for Thanksgiving (if it's done).

I just got to thinking about it, and Thanksgiving sounds a little optimistic. Maybe Christmas? Whenever I start on it, I know it won't last long. I've already promised out half the batch as samples for friends.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top