You guys have solved my conundrum.I have been growing Willamette for a few years with moderate (2 or 3 oz dried) results. Last year I founds 3 Cascade plants which I grew in pots with good results.I had the chance to visit family in Portland OR last year and took the opportunity to drive through hops country in the Willamette. It inspired me to build a much more dedicated hops yard.So, my yield, especially the Cascades was AWESOME. I decided to do a fresh hop ale. The Recipe:Harvest Ale 2009American Pale Ale*Type: All Grain*Date: 8/23/2009Batch Size: 5.75 gal*Brewer: Darren McLellanBoil Size: 6.92 galBoil Time: 90 min IngredientsAmount *Item *Type *% or IBU9.75 lb *Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) *Grain *76.47 %2.50 lb *Caramel Malt - 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) *Grain *19.61 %0.50 lb *Carafoam (2.0 SRM) *Grain *3.92 %1.25 oz *Cascade (Fresh) [1.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop)1.25 oz *Williamette (Fresh) [0.95 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop)0.13 oz *Cascade (Fresh) [4.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)0.50 oz *Williamette (Fresh) [4.00 %] (Dry Hop 14 days)2.00 oz *Cascade (Fresh) [1.10 %] (60 min)1.50 oz *Cascade (Fresh) [1.10 %] (40 min)1.00 oz *Williamette (Fresh) [0.95 %] (15 min)0.50 oz *Cascade (Fresh) [1.10 %] (5 min)1.00 oz *Williamette (Fresh) [4.80 %] (5 min)2 Pkgs *Safale US-05 (DCL Yeast #US-05) [Starter 50 ml] **Beer ProfileEst Original Gravity: 1.049 SGMeasured Original Gravity: 1.045 SGEst Final Gravity: 1.014 SG *Measured Final Gravity: 1.013 SGEstimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.56 % *Actual Alcohol by Vol: 4.17 %Bitterness: 23.5 IBU *Calories: 200 cal/pintEst Color: 7.0 SRM *Color:Mash ProfileSingle Infusion, Full Body, No Mash Out *Total Grain Weight: 12.75 lb*So, as I am brewing, I am sampling and the bittering is no where. I kept adding hops until I had, as one can see, over a half pound of wet hops in 5 gallons! After primary, there is still a lack of hopiness.This thread solves my conundrum. Using the 5 to 1 ratio I have about .80 oz of dried hops in the whole brew. At this point, I sure hope the dry hopping, with dried hops from this years harvest, will give it a nice finished hop aroma.Time will tell...