American 2 - row in place of Marris Otter

I really, really, really want to brew an English brown but have no way of getting my hands on any marris otter this weekend. Is this beer gonna suck with american pale? Will I be able to tell a big difference? I'm sure it would make a nice beer with the grainbill, but using english hops I'm worried about the pairing.

I'd try and bump up the "maltiness" quotient some other way; can you get your hands on some Munich or melanoidin/aromatic malt?

the_bird said:

I'd try and bump up the "maltiness" quotient some other way; can you get your hands on some Munich or melanoidin/aromatic malt?

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I have biscuit, crystals, special b, dextrine, caramunich, caravienne and that's it.

Maybe add a touch of biscuit and caramunich to make up for it. A couple ounces of each?

OK, went with caravienne and biscuit. I was actually out of caramunich... and I don't have crystal 60, so upped the crystal 40 amount just a tad. Oh, this a sketchy attempt at Orfy's Hobgoblin clone (without crystal 60, marris otter or nottingham). It's close on the OG, IBU's and SRM though:

EDIT: Just backed down to .15 with the caravienne and biscuit. I really don't want their flavor profiles to come through much, just the maltiness.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Hobgoblin Clone (American 2-row)
Brewer: Christopher John Flannagan
Asst Brewer:
Style: English Old Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.58 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 16.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 32.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 83.97 %
0.70 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 5.34 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.82 %
0.40 lb Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3.05 %
0.15 lb Biscuit Malt (23.0 SRM) Grain 1.91 %
0.15 lb Caravienne Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 1.91 %
0.40 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (60 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
0.40 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (60 min) (FirstHops 6.8 IBU
0.40 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 5.2 IBU
0.40 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) (First Wort HopHops 5.7 IBU
0.40 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (30 min) Hops 4.0 IBU
0.40 oz Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (30 min) Hops 4.8 IBU
1 Pkgs British Ale (White Labs #WLP005) [Starter Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 13.10 lb
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Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
45 min Mash In Add 16.37 qt of water at 168.2 F 156.0 F


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