Berliner Weisse and DMS

Pogopunx82 · Nov 9, 2011

I brewed a BW a month ago using a 50/50 Pilnser/wheat grain bill. I did the 15 minute boil. Using pilsner malt I usually do a 90 minute. Should I be worried about large amounts of DMS because of the boil. If there is any is there a way to clean it up. I used only lacto no yeast. Anybody do the 15 minute boil instead of the no boil.

dwarven_stout · Nov 9, 2011

I do no-boil on mine, and have not had DMS issues. (I'm still trying to get them sour enough, though). I don't know if the lacto naturally cleans up DMS, or if modern malt is just that much better than it used to be.

passedpawn · Nov 9, 2011

15 minute here. Made this twice. No problem at all.

pdxal · Nov 10, 2011

You probably want some yeast in there too, but I've had no issues with Diacetyl with Berliner Weisse beers. Of course, maybe the sour is covering up the butterscotch...

neut2004 · Nov 10, 2011

I would expect the long conditioning period would resolve any dms issues.

Pogopunx82 · Nov 10, 2011

Alright, I've also heard co2 hooked up to the "out" lock and letting it bubble with the relief valve open will clean it out. Also why should I add some yeast and if theres a good reason if its already below .010 would adding any do anything?

Brewskii · Nov 10, 2011

https://beersensoryscience.wordpress.com/tag/smm/

Check it out. Yeast has almost nothing to do with S-methyl methionine -> dimethel sulfide conversion or dissipation.
(edit: OK, technically it does dissipate some via scrubbing action from co2 production but not from the yeast itself or aging)

Pogopunx82 · Nov 10, 2011

What I meant to say was, whats the difference between an all lacto berliner and a yeast/lacto berliner.

wyzazz · Nov 10, 2011

Mash hop and 15 min boil on my last Berliner Weisse with no traces of DMS. I pitched Lactobacillus Delbruckei and let that work for 72 hours before pitching a packet of S-04.

neut2004 said:
I would expect the long conditioning period would resolve any dms issues.

Long conditioning with a Berliner Weisse? I let mine go a month in the primary and 2 weeks in the bottle. On the other hand I have a Flanders Red that will be in the fermenter for at least 18moz.

pdxal · Nov 10, 2011

Pogopunx82 said:
What I meant to say was, whats the difference between an all lacto berliner and a yeast/lacto berliner.

Speed of fermentation and taste. With all 'wild' (non sacchromyces) bugs fermenting the taste can be more variable and develop more slowly.

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