Hops & Estrogen

My apologies, new to forum, I'm sure this post has been done already. But this worries me.

I love hops but I love my T cuz I'm a man. What to do? Sure I get health benefits from hops but is it worth a limp D?

Never heard of this, but I've been drinking hoppy beers for 5 years and don't have any trouble getting it up. What's your source for this correlation between hops and estrogen?

Thanks for this post--made me laugh on an otherwise crappy morning!

I think it's the ethanol that's making your d- limp.

WOW...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1852439/
"Hops, the resinous inflorescences of the twining vine Humulus lupulus L. (Cannabaceae), are used today primarily for their bitter and aromatic properties in the manufacture of beer. In addition, hop preparations are sold in health-food stores in the U.S. for the treatment of anxiety and insomnia, and are sold in pharmacies in Europe (Anon., 2002), and formerly in pharmacies in the U.S. (Anon., 1946), for these purposes. Hops have been shown to contain one of the most potent in vitro estrogenic substance known from the plant kingdom,"

However, this site say's:

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/84/6/2249.abstract
"This phytoestrogen can also be detected in beer, but the levels are low and should not pose any cause for concern."

(-whew-)

Well that explains the man boobs.

I always find that simcoe throughout the boil and an aroma steep of Viagra to be a nice combo.

Xpertskir said:

I always find that simcoe throughout the boil and an aroma steep of Viagra to be a nice combo.

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Adding Viagra into beer smith now!

BamaRooster said:

Adding Viagra into beer smith now!

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Ha Ha

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/estrogen-beer-135363/
ok so every man of age has heard the wife say no not tonight you will take too long you've been drinking. it seems the hops may be why, damn it that pisses me off. i love hops

BamaRooster said:

Adding Viagra into beer smith now!

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What's the contribution to OG?

I think were safe guys!

Another site with what appears to be scientific data that seems to debunk the idea that hops in beer = Low T. At least in the quantities we consume in beer.
http://cms.herbalgram.org/herbalgram/issue87/article3559.html

Nagorg said:

I think were safe guys!

Another site with what appears to be scientific data that seems to debunk the idea that hops in beer = Low T. At least in the quantities we consume in beer.
http://cms.herbalgram.org/herbalgram/issue87/article3559.html

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Damn! There goes that excuse.

Why would adding estrogen lower testosterone?

Ridiculous!

I am a dedicated hop over-doser. No problem with anything limp (except when not in use) my beard grows in so flipping fast it pisses me off at least once a week.

cheezydemon3 said:

Why would adding estrogen lower testosterone?

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Well.. Guess I should referenced "Low-T" as compared to the level of estrogen... To be correct in this context cheezydemon!

This is why I stick with the dopplebocks and berliner wiesse!

I'm pretty sure this is all myth. I've been drinking IIPAs for a while now so I can grow my own pair of "Tigolbitties" and nothing has happened so far.

So those green pills I get at the home brew store aren't vitamins? Wondered why the shirts were tighter in the chest lately.

Huh... so that's why I sulk in the corner and cry like a baby after drinking too many.

jasolhe said:

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f14/estrogen-beer-135363/
ok so every man of age has heard the wife say no not tonight you will take too long you've been drinking. it seems the hops may be why, damn it that pisses me off. i love hops

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HMMM... Well there are no hops in Whiskey. So when I overundulge with some Dickel, and get the excuse....

Well I hope your intelligent enough to see where I'm going and that the common factor between beer and whiskey is not hops. Just saying.

That would be a good field study.
Drink 6 pack of hoppy beer, and time how long it takes to "finish"
Drink 6 pack of non-hopped beer, maybe some herb beer, and time how long it takes to "finish"
Has to be the same chick. Same positions and such.
Any takers? I'm married so it takes forever when I'm sober even.

Maxkling said:

HMMM... Well there are no hops in Whiskey. So when I overundulge with some Dickel, and get the excuse....

Well I hope your intelligent enough to see where I'm going and that the common factor between beer and whiskey is not hops. Just saying.

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Wood aged liquors have a good amount of phyto estrogens in them. On the other hand so do lots of normal foods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens#Food_sources

interesting how these types of food reduce prostate cancer, because lower t = less risk for it.

BamaRooster said:

Adding Viagra into beer smith now!

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I think Randy from Trailer Park Boys made some Viagra burgers for Mr. Lahey, but Steve French, the cougar, raided the grill and ate them.

y2jrock60 said:

i think randy from trailer park boys made some viagra burgers for mr. Lahey, but steve french, the cougar, raided the grill and ate them.

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best show ever!

Sometimes I get the menstral cramps real hard.....