cweston said:unless you also increase the hops by the same amount.
sonvolt said:Forgive and correct me if I am wrong here, but you shouldn't necessarily assume that you can increase the hops at the same proportion as you increase malt and expect similar results. For instance, you can't simply double a five gallon recipe if you are using a ten gallon system.
cweston said:Actually, I think you can just double a 5 gallon recipe to get a 10 gallon recipe. There was a thrad about this recently--wasn't that the consensus?
I personally wouldn't mess with it at all--if I want a higher ABV beer, I'd brew a higher ABV style. But I'm a big believer in the BU:GU stat as one of the most important aspects of any style. If you mess with that much, the beer won't taste the same.
Mykel Obvious said:As to the BU:GU... shouldn't be hard to figure out the new IBUs from the new expected OG and keep the ratio the same, no? Just add a few more grams of hops depending on calculations and there you are... this is what homebrew is all about, wouldn't you agree?
cweston said:concomitantly* (*sorry: I've been reading papers all day + evening.)
Mykel Obvious said:Dunno about the other thread, but if ya use ProMash and lock the ingredients to the batch size, going from 5 gallons to 10 doubles everything (malt and hops) and the OG, IBU and SRM numbers don't change...just FYI...
Walker-san said:Somone should try taking a 5 gallon recipe up to 10000 gallons in ProMash and see if there is any kind of curve in the graph or if it really is linear.
-walker
P funky said:Hey, sorta off topic, but: What is Bu:Gu? For that matter, what is IBU?
I have a humble request- could we start a thread, or a sticky thread, that is just for definitions of terms, so that neubs like me can learn without bugging for definitions? (So far I've wondered about IBU, Gu, and SWMBO, but other things will come up). Thanks.
Walker-san said:That was the conclusion reached in the other thread, too. Everything is linear... at least on the relatively small scales that we're working within.
Somone should try taking a 5 gallon recipe up to 10000 gallons in ProMash and see if there is any kind of curve in the graph or if it really is linear.
-walker
Walker-san said:That was the conclusion reached in the other thread, too. Everything is linear... at least on the relatively small scales that we're working within.
Somone should try taking a 5 gallon recipe up to 10000 gallons in ProMash and see if there is any kind of curve in the graph or if it really is linear.
-walker
Mykel Obvious said:calman, can you give us the info on the kit? (extract, grains, hops, etc.)... I can plug it into ProMash and give you some idea of what you might do with it...
later,
mikey
P funky said:I have a humble request- could we start a thread, or a sticky thread, that is just for definitions of terms, so that neubs like me can learn without bugging for definitions? (So far I've wondered about IBU, Gu, and SWMBO, but other things will come up). Thanks.
calman said:One of my friend told me mixing some 95% Everclear would do the job (with some calculations).
calman said:One of my friend told me mixing some 95% Everclear would do the job (with some calculations).
Walker-san said:You could certainly do this if you wanted.
If you want to increase the ABV of a 5 gallon batch by 2%, you need to add roughly 2% of 5 gallons worth of 100% grain alcohol, which is about 13 oz or so.
I can give you a more complicated equation that takes into account the increased overal volume and the fact that everclear is only 190 proof, but... 13 oz is good enough for an approximation.
Oh, and one more thing... if you are in a hurry to get to , just drink the everclear.
Mykel Obvious said:I took 5 gallons up to 50000 and the 9.56 lb grain bill went to 95630 lbs... now, who's got a 50000 gallon mash tun???
P funky said:Also, Walker, I defer to your expert judgment on this- or, I guess, anyone who cares to comment: At what point on the %abv scale does a beer get too weird or nasty to drink? Or is it always delicious, even as it's hoisting your shorts up over your head and slapping you in the belly?
budbo said:http://www.rpi.edu/dept/chem-eng/Biotech-Environ/FERMENT/largest.htm
these guys probably do.
I assume you were talking about the extraction efficiency of the hops from doing a full 5 gallon boil vs a full 10 gallon boil. I'd say it wouldn't be noticable, at least on my palate.sonvolt said:Forgive and correct me if I am wrong here, but you shouldn't necessarily assume that you can increase the hops at the same proportion as you increase malt and expect similar results. For instance, you can't simply double a five gallon recipe if you are using a ten gallon system.
You may want to work all of this out at the recipator, just to be sure.
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