Well, I have been known to be a little sardonic, especially when someone jumps on me. All I tried to say was: You're wrong about the info on BJCP competition entry forms and you are.
So peace and goodwill..
Well without further turning this into a pissing match....
Feel free to enter any made up or real beer you want in one of these two
BJCP sponsored competitions...because in the two years I have entered beers in there, I have never even been asked for a recipe...only "special ingredients" if it was one of the categories requesting that info...
AND never have I been asked about the yeast I use...
2009 Michigan Renaissance Festival Competition
The one below last year included over 800 entries, and since this is supposed to be the last year of the Michigan State fair I know of several brewers in Michigan who entered this contest for the first time
soley because it may be the last year. So I would think this year 1,000 is not going to be a surprise.
Welcome to the Michigan State Fair 2009 Home Brewing Competition website
Nor have I ever come across it in any of the paper and pencil entries I have filled out for any of the smaller comps I may have entered, bjcp sponsored or otherwise.....
Sorry I can't scan and post any of those, to back me up, but if I still had them I would most definitely do so.
Or else I wouldn't have made such a statement about my experiecne.
So again,
in my exerience I have never had anything I have entered, whether they placed or not been counted in the data...nor have approximately
800 other beers a year in the State Fair competition alone that I know of, have been asked whether it was brewed with liquid or dry yeast, allgrain or otherwise.....
and I am not sure how many entries in the last 3 years of the beer baron's Brew Ball, but since it is at a Major Rennaisance festival in michigan, I would probably venture a minimum 200 beers a year were entered, so there is 600 enteries in bjcp contests where the question wasn't asked.
So I personally know of
at least 3,000 beers in
my state alone where yeast info was NOT included as part of a sanctioned competition. So therefore there was no way to determine whether or not the winner brewed with dry or wet, or all grain for that matter....
I mean, we are all clicking on the same links afterall.
And there's 50 states in the union? And I do know that many of the online registratons for contests appear to use the same software backbone, so I would assume that they don't ask either for consistency across the bjcp.
So honestly, I think any data on that "AG is Wins More that Extract" or "Liquid wins more that Dry" STILL seems a little bit flawed stastically.....
I have no more to add to this discussion with you, I don't know how I can be "wrong" about what I said about yeast being included in
any of the contests I have entered. If you can find the spot on the forms that
I filled out I would like to see it.