Looking for a Hoppy Wheat

anyone ever try??... I am very interested in a recipe...

Just take your favorite IPA recipe and replace the base pale extract (or grains) with wheat. Or take a wheat beer you like and hop it out. Both sound fun. New recipes. Good times. Profit.

Made one the other day. It was 6# 60/40 wheat LME and handfulls of cluster late in the game. Handfulls instead of ounces because I did not bring my scale.
Think there was about 5 1/2 ounces in the bag when I started and I left about an ounce to dryhop

Here's one of mine. It's for 15 gallons so scale accordingly. Replace the rye with wheat if that's not your thing:

Summer Wheat & Rye
11 lbs Wheat Malt 35.48 %
6 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt 21.77 %
6 lbs 12.0 oz Vienna Malt 21.77 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Crystal Malt - 20L 4.84 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Rye Malt 4.84 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Rye, Flaked 4.84 %
1 lbs 8.0 oz Wheat, Flaked 4.84 %
8.0 oz Aromatic Malt 1.61 %
2.50 oz Cluster [8.30 %] (60 min) 27.9 IBU
1.00 oz Ahtanum [4.50 %] (2 min) 1.1 IBU
1.50 oz Amarillo [9.60 %] (2 min) 3.2 IBU
1.50 oz Palisade [8.40 %] (2 min) 2.8 IBU
4.00 oz Palisade [8.40 %] (0 min)
SafAle English Ale (Fermentis #S-04) Fermented warm (>70F)

robm184 said:

Looking for a Hoppy Wheat . . . anyone ever try?

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American Wheat/Rye is one of my regulars.

40% Wheat
40% 2-row
10% Rye
10% Sugar
Chico Yeast (US-05, Wy1056 or WPL001)

5% ABV
40 IBU (mostly Amarillo)

We drink it all year round, but it's a great summer beer.
Brewing a batch this weekend.

I brewed a great recipe last summer based on New Glarus Crack'd Wheat. Amarillo and Cascade for aroma, equal parts pils/wheat, bit of CaraVienna to leave a hint of sweetness.

Planning on doing something similar in a few weeks. I'll make 8 gallons of ~1.050 wort, take 5 gallons and hop with Riwaka and ferment with 3068, then take 3 gallons and water it down to 1.030, hop with Amarillo and Nelson Sauvin, and ferment with 1056. Should be nice to have two different takes on hoppy wheat beer.

Here's the one I brewed a little while back - need to make it again, since the wife says it's her favorite beer I've ever made. Next time I'll probably sub something neutral like Magnum for the Simcoe (just sort of a waste to use Simcoe for a 60min addition), and you may have trouble finding Citra right now...

Citra Wheat - American Wheat or Rye Beer
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Batch Size: 5.500 gal
Boil Size: 6.500 gal
Boil Time: 0.000 s
Efficiency: 70%%
OG: 1.056
FG: 1.014
ABV: 5.4%%
Bitterness: 45.6 IBUs (Tinseth)
Color: 6 SRM (Morey)

Fermentables
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Name Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Crystal 20L Grain 1.000 lb Yes No 75%% 20 L
Pale Malt(2-row) Grain 4.500 lb Yes No 78%% 2 L
Wheat Malt Grain 6.000 lb Yes No 86%% 2 L
Total grain: 11.500 lb

Hops
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Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Simcoe 11.0%% 0.501 oz Boil 1.000 hr Pellet 18.0
Citra 14.0%% 0.751 oz Boil 20.000 min Pellet 20.8
Citra 14.0%% 0.751 oz Boil 5.000 min Pellet 6.8
Citra 14.0%% 0.501 oz Dry Hop 0.000 s Pellet 0.0

Yeast
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Name Type Form Amount Stage
Amercan Ale/Chico Ale Dry 1.057 qt Primary

Mash
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Name Type Amount Temp Target Time
Saccharification Rest Infusion 4.025 gal 165.281 F 152.600 F 1.000 hr
Final Batch Sparge Infusion 3.970 gal 180.972 F 165.200 F 15.000 min

Do a search for "gumballhead clone". I had some of that homebrew once that was awesome.

none of the recipes mentioned (though they sound awesome) using Saaz... I'd probably use a ton of saaz in late addition/secondary with a wheat beer since the Saaz has such a spicy profile it'd work well with the phenols from a hefe yeast.

vnyand said:

none of the recipes mentioned (though they sound awesome) using Saaz... I'd probably use a ton of saaz in late addition/secondary with a wheat beer since the Saaz has such a spicy profile it'd work well with the phenols from a hefe yeast.

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I've heard from others this works well if you like the spiciness of the saaz.

Try any 60/40 wheat to pale bittered/flavored/dryhopped with Sorachi Ace. It is a very interesting hop in wheat beers and it has been documented here in the past.

o yah im not arguing that other hops wont work, i was just surprised saaz didn't come up right away

I just made this brew....I am anticipting that it will be quite tasty.


8.50 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 44.74 %
8.50 lb Wheat Malt, Ger (2.0 SRM) Grain 44.74 %
1.00 lb CaraHell (13.0 SRM) Grain 5.26 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 5.26 %
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.50 %] (60 min) Hops 6.1 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (30 min) Hops 6.2 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (15 min) Hops 4.0 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (10 min) Hops 2.9 IBU
1.00 oz Williamette [4.80 %] (5 min) Hops 1.6 IBU



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.048 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 4.65 %
Bitterness: 20.8 IBU Calories: 194 cal/pint
Est Color: 4.6 SRM

Mash Temp = 154
Mash Time = overnight
Yeast = WLP001

This recipe was the best in class pale hybrid beer at the NZ National Homebrew Competition last year:

20L batch

2kg Pilsner malt
2kg Weyermann Wheat
0.2kg Caramalt
0.1kg Caramunich 2

Mashed at 66C

60 minute boil
25g Sorachi Ace 10.9%AA @ 20 mins
25g Sorachi Ace 10.9%AA @ 5 minutes
25g Sorachi Ace 10.9%AA @ Flameout

OG 1.050
FG 1.014
28IBU

Fermented with US-05 @ 16-18C

Sorachi Ace works wonderfully in this kind of thing. It's a great, easy drinking summer beer.

I just kegged a hoppy wheat that came out awesome. I dont have the recipe with me, but it was around 5lbs 2-row, 4lbs wheat, 1.5 lbs rye. FWH Sorachi Ace, then a bunch of Sorachi Ace, Citra, and Amarillo in the last 15 minutes. Dry hopped with .75 oz of each also. 5.5-5.8%, mid 50 ibus.

If you want the recipe I can post it later.

Gumballhead clone:

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.25 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1.92 %
6.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 46.15 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 30.77 %
2.00 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 15.38 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.77 %
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 9.9 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.2 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.26 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1.05 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
5.25 gal Chicago, IL Water
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

RC0032 said:

Gumballhead clone:

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.25 lb Rice Hulls (0.0 SRM) Adjunct 1.92 %
6.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 46.15 %
4.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 30.77 %
2.00 lb Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 15.38 %
0.75 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 5.77 %
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 9.9 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 6.5 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (30 min) Hops 5.0 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 7.6 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 3.2 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 4.9 IBU
0.25 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.3 IBU
0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (5 min) Hops 2.0 IBU
0.26 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1.05 tbsp PH 5.2 Stabilizer (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
5.25 gal Chicago, IL Water
1 Pkgs Nottingham (Danstar #-) Yeast-Ale

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I am pretty sure Gumballhead is all Amarillo, but that recipe looks good also.

Another good hoppy wheat is Lagunitas Little Sumpin Sumpin. It was recently cloned on the Jamil show, there is a long thread about it.

I just brewed the Bee Cave Hefe recipe that's popular on here but did 5 oz of Amarillo all between 20 minutes and flameout. The beer looks beautiful and the hop profile is huge but I used hefe yeast and the admittedly green sample I had last night (only a week of bottle carbing) tasted a little weird. Hoping the flavors come together a little better in the next couple weeks.

Thats my understanding also about gumballhead is its all amarillo and you have no wheat in it. I did a gumballhead take pieced it together from recipes here and there.

5# pils
5# malted wheat
.25oz Amarillo fwh
.25oz Amarillo 60 min
.5oz Amarillo 15 min
1oz Amarillo 10 min
1oz Amarillo 5 min
1oz Amarillo 1 min
1oz Amarillo dry hop 7 days

1# raspberry honey 15 min (I have so much honey I need to use so I just threw some in)

mash 154
60 min boil
built tastys pale ale water


This was a very nice beer would brew it again for sure.

Thank you everyone for your input, I actually went with a mixture of a couple of things:

Pale malt 4 LBS
Wheat extract 3 LBS
Crystal grains 60 1LB

.5 Magnum 60
.5 Perle 30
.5 Cascade 15
.5 Cascade 0
1. Cascade dry

I was going to use the California but I decided to use
White Labs 351

so well see in a couple of weeks or so....

I made this morning....

I finally bottled/Kegged that last batch and it tasted pretty damn good... As every batch, bottled a 6pk and keg the rest....

So I decided to continue on the Hoppy Wheat so I went with a smaller batch this time though 2.5 Gallon.

6 LBS Wheat Malt
.8 Magnum @60
.25 Simcoe @30
.65 Centennial @15
.50 Cascade @5
.50 Amarillo @ flame out...

I had only some dry yeast and WLP 001/351 on hand so I pitch the whole 351, I did use some Yeast Nutrient as well because the predicted OG 1.086 :rockin:
I will probably leave in about 3-4 weeks since I finally have reached the point where I have a few beers available.