My husband and I live in Germany. Before we moved here, we used to use Star-san for all out beer brewing needs. Unfortunately, it's not available here without a 3 week waiting period to arrive from the States. We've ordered it.
But in the meantime, only these products: http://www.hobbybrauerversand.de/Reinigen
and these products:
http://www.brouwland.com/en/
...seem to be available. The list of those products is below. All of them are completely unknown to us, and it's hard to find reviews and opinions by homebrewers. Where do you guys stand on their use as sanitizers or cleaners? Has anyone used them?
biostream Aseptica
Chemipro Acid
Chemopro Caustic
Chemipro Oxi
TM Desana Max fp
Eilfix Bacy-Sept Disinfecting Cleaner
Eilfix Glass Cleaner
Iodophor (That's a sanitizer, right?)
Caustic Soda
P3- Alcodes/ P3- Asepto
Potassium Sulfite
Trisodiumphosphate
New here and great list. I did a search in this thread and didn't see anything but sorry in advance if I'm asking a question that's already been answer.
Are any of those cleaners/sanitizers bad for aluminum? I have an aluminum brew pot. I assume sanitizer is not required since it will be boiling the wort.
If I'm cleaning the equipment off with hot water and Easy Clean right after I brew, do I still need to use Star San (or similar) before I brew again? I've only done one batch and I'm getting ready to do another.
How long does Star-San keep? How do you know that you need to replace it?
Same question for Sani-Clean?
SteveWPG said:Not sure if this has been asked but I can't find it anywhere. I want to use Bar Keeper's Friend to CIP my fermenters (cleaning and passivating) but I'm am not sure how much to use. What concentration do I mix it?
I have inadvertently scorched my new kettle :-(. PBW is not working on a couple quarter sized spots that I just can't seem to get clean even with a green scrubber and a lot of elbow grease.
Any thoughts on cleaners to get this off the bottom of my brew kettle ? Bar keepers ? Just don't want to ruin my kettle.
Where did you buy bar keepers ?
If I want to dry heat sterilize my bottles in the oven, after a rinse in Star San, would it be critical to have no foam left before going into a hot oven (300-340 deg F)? Of am I going over board? I am trying to prep them for short storage, NOT immediate bottling.
I have inadvertently scorched my new kettle :-(. PBW is not working on a couple quarter sized spots that I just can't seem to get clean even with a green scrubber and a lot of elbow grease.
Any thoughts on cleaners to get this off the bottom of my brew kettle ? Bar keepers ? Just don't want to ruin my kettle.
Where did you buy bar keepers ?
When you sanitize with bleach it's best to mix an equal amount of bleach and vinegar into the water you're sanitizing with. Bleach on its own won't kill certain bacteria unless the water has some acidity to it (hence the vinegar.)
It's important not to mix the vinegar and bleach directly, or you will end up with a nasty toxic cloud. Pour the bleach into the water, mix, then add the vinegar. There's an audio file here http://www.basicbrewing.com/index.php?page=radio (March 27th) that breaks it all down.
I've done all my sanitizing with bleach/vinegar and never had a sanitation-induced infection.
i use starsan as a cleaner/sanitiser, if i have a fermenter that has caked on yeast ill add the star san let it sit for a few mins and go at it with the carboy brush works great!
i clean my mash tuns out with it every now and then also
Star San is a acid based sanitizer, not meant for cleaning. You should be using PBW or Oxy Clean free for cleaning, a nice long hot soak then scrubbing. But if you have a better bottle plastic carboy you should not be using a carboy brush either it will scratch the plastic. A good cleaner will need no scrubbing. If you feel you need to scrub a plastic carboy after a good long soak empty 3/4 of the cleaner out and put a small towel/rag in the carboy and shake it all around. Good Luck.
Why isn't Urine on the list?
ok ok delete this one if you want to keep this thread 100% serious
Hi there
Sanitizing or cleaning with bleach? I am asking because I am looking for a good cleaning agent.
I'm not sure if this applies to HB, but people who allergic to shellfish will have an allergic reaction to the iodine in most iodine based cleaners. Has anyone had a problem with this? I know in the medical field we always have to ask before we use iodine.
Does PBW sanitize too? Is it the same thing as One Step? I read that in Germany they use Sulfuric acid. Anyone heard of this?
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