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Kmcogar

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Made my first mead. 5 gallons of sweetness still conditioning. Honey was pretty expensive though. Any homebrewers out there farm their own honey? If so, any pointers? Equipment? Ya know....all that info that one may need to start my very own bee how operation.

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I started a couple hives this year for my Wineyard so we would get more berries and apples. I suggest right now you find your local beekeepers group (http://www.mdbeekeepers.org/), they will probably be starting beginner beekeeping classes very soon and ordering packages of bees and queens which will start to arrive about midMarch so you dont have time to sit around thinking about it, go out and get started, you have hives to paint to be ready in 3 months.

I think these people are pretty close to you guys and would have local queens for sale and packages (http://www.rockhillhoneybeefarms-inc.com/). My honey tastes much better than any other honey we have tried and our first 2 batches of mead from it are going to be our best yet!!!

WVMJ
 
Interesting - I may be starting a hive this spring.

I'd start with a trip to the bookstore (real or virtual) and read one or more of the many "Intro to Beekeeping" type books. Also, there are forums much like this one, devoted to beekeeping.

Good luck!
 
www.beesource.com is one of the biggest bee forums. Read all you can, but your local clubs will have the local knowhow and who to talk to for bee equipment and packages. There are a lot of nuts out there with their own ideas to save the bees, kind of like on here where everyone knows how to make mead 100 different ways and there are all the best :)

I would also strongly suggest using all medium boxes, that way all your parts are interchangable. There are 3 commonly used sizes that are mixed together traditionally and its a pain the arse when swapping frames between hives.

WVMJ
 
Started a few yrs back, strongly recommend joining a club, usually cheap and they often have an extractor u can borrow (these are expensive)
Be prepared to spend 1000 to get set up, used wooden equipment is not recommended for disease reasons
It's best to start with two hives so u can get an idea of normal. Here u can get 100lbs of honey per hive though less in the first year
Good time of year to start looking as nucs may need to be ordered soon if the winter is hard they might be in short supply
Beekeeping for dummies is a good book to get u started
 
Thanks all. This is really good information. I'm gonna contact my local bee keepers ASAP!
 
Not sure where you live but my husband and I make semi annual trips to Milwaukee and we have bought directly from Kallas honey farm( well more like a warehouse in an industrial park). However they get all their honey, when possible, from WI beekeepers and they have many great varieties (cranberry, blueberry, alfalfa to name a few). They are very distinct in color and taste. The bonus is we can get it $10 a gallon cheaper than in our local brew store. Definitely worth the trip if you're driving distance from Milwaukee
 
RebelliousVanilla said:
My local "liquid hobby" shop sells local honey for 5 dollars/1.5lb.

Sounds like a hell of a deal. I'm working on finding a better deal until I can get my own harvesting on its way
 
Doesn't sound like you need any further motivation, but I'll say Go for it. I did it for 3 years until I moved to China. I got book smart first. A large local supplier, Dadant, and the local beekeeping club held a full day seminar in the winter which I attended. All of which helped me get started.

I started with 2 hives which is quite standard, went to 4 the next year and then 5. You get more than that and you'll actually regret when it comes harvest time in a good year due to all the time and effort to manually harvest.

It's another great hobby and once set up is minimal time throughout the season until a harvest day.
 
Quaker said:
Doesn't sound like you need any further motivation, but I'll say Go for it. I did it for 3 years until I moved to China. I got book smart first. A large local supplier, Dadant, and the local beekeeping club held a full day seminar in the winter which I attended. All of which helped me get started.

I started with 2 hives which is quite standard, went to 4 the next year and then 5. You get more than that and you'll actually regret when it comes harvest time in a good year due to all the time and effort to manually harvest.

It's another great hobby and once set up is minimal time throughout the season until a harvest day.

How much honey were you getting from 2 hives in a year? My wife loves local honey. She heard its good for allergies so she takes a spoonful everyday. It gets pretty pricey with the prices in paying. If I could get 12lbs a year plus some to make some mead with, it would be great.
I figure it's an easy way to convince her that we could really benefit from this new hobby. She is scared of the hole getting stung thing (her and our dog) . That's her only argument against this.
 
Kmcogar said:
My local deli sells honey for $14 a pound. It's way too expensive!

Whoa quite pricy. Should mention that all varieties (except tupelo) are currently $38 per gallon at Kallas which comes to about 3.17 per pound..... Hence the 2 hour drive a couple times a year to Milwaukee is well worth it
 
Short answer: 20-50lbs per hive in south east Wisconsin.

Long answer, my tale:

Well my rookie year I harvested 100lbs total from the 2 hives. And the trade-off was that the bees didn't make it through the winter. Although the true cause was freezing before they actually ran out of food, but they would have starved before spring. That year in Wisconsin beekeeper a on average lost 45% percent of their hives over winter. It was a terrible one for bees.

Year 2 I aimed to get my bees through the winter. I started with 4, but soon combined 2 of them; one was a little weak and the other had a laying worker. I only took about 10 frames total among the 3 hives remaining. I wrapped the hives for winter and still lost them all. One made it through, and I was feeding it. But in April it swarmed and left without notice or queen cells.

So year 3 and disgruntled, I decided I'd take more honey. I started with 5 hives and reduced to 4 during the season, combining 2 weaker hives. It was a banner year. I harvested 200 lbs. in late July, early enough for them to build up more winter stores, and still left a super on 2 of them for added food. All 4 made it through the winter, but I was already in China. The spring was long and wet into May, and without me there to feed them to get them through they struggled. As I would visit home once every 2 months I'd combine weak ones until there was only 1 remaining in the fall of 2011.

At a small scale of 1 or 2 hives it would be cheaper to find the local club and inquire who has bulk honey to sell. But if your not doing it to save money, then it's a great hobby. I bottled mine and sold it at work for $5/pound which offset some of the costs. Another 100-200 pound year and I probably would have paid off my equipment and it would be paying for itself.

That and my garden/orchard are the 2 thing I miss the most due to living in China now. So brewing gets all my spare attention.
 
We are like 75 miles west of you, 48$ gallon (I know someone can get it cheaper, this is a walk in help yourself place), between us there is a group in Frederick Md, a homebrew shop there, also serves as a brew on premise place, sells local gallons at the same price, then you have the Montgomer county MD beekeepers, and the eastern shore beekeepers, if you cant find cheaper honey you are not looking very hard. WVMJ

My local deli sells honey for $14 a pound. It's way too expensive!
 
It would be very bad for me to live close to Dadant! My mentor positioned hives to be facing my black raspberry and blackberry Wineyard. The wife had to wear a suit to pick berries, she complained a little but we got a lot more berries. My dog on the other hand, doesnt have much belly hair, has shown us he can do many dance moves and twists. Its funny when you read how some of these big guys got started with one hive, got really into it and ended up with hundreds, a big truck to haul everything, built a honey house,started rearing queens and are still doing it even into old age. Thats my plan anyway :) WVMJ
 
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