jay29 said:Thanks for the info! Why are you using star san now???
None.Diablotastic said:How much rinsing (if any) would you guys generally do after you had sanitized with Iodophor?
You are. I let mine sit upsidown for a few minutes then fill.Diablotastic said:I'm currently rinsing ALL my sanitized equipment after the Iodophor and now I'm wondering if I'm negating the sanitation or possibly risking contamination
Fingers said:You guys all mix up 5 gallons of Iodophor?
Fingers said:...I'd actually gone to her to see if she could get me bulk Iodophor so I wouldn't have to spend $7 per 500ml bottle at my HBS.
I've been using WalMart's Povidone for many, many batches and haven't had a problem. The other inactive ingredients don't bother me.ma2brew said:So I thought I'd be some kinda bargain hunter and check out the Rite Aid on the road between jobs. They had Betadine for $19.99 for 8 oz, which ain't a deal by any means compared to BTF's Iodophor, and they had their Rite Aid brand Povidone Iodine solution. The Rite aid brand not only had a 10% iodine active ingredient, but a number of "inactive" ingredients that I balked at, including Nonoxyl-9, which to my memory is a spermicide, WTF does that belong in an iodine solution for. There was also citric acid, sodium hydroxide and finally some water. It was kind of scary to read and ruled it out for me right away.
THANK YOU, Revvy! That's great! I just happen to live in an agricultural area. Is there a particular concentration that I should be looking for or is it a standard? One of the issues I had with the Iodophor from my HBS is that the concentration isn't listed so I don't know what to replace it with.Revvy said:You can buy concentrated bulk Iodophor for 8 dollars a gallon at a farm and feed store...there's a picture of the stuff on a thread from 2 weeks ago....
Here it is from someone's thread...Nipple Sanitizer. I know it says 19.00 on this gallon...but someone posted last week they bought it for 8 bucks.
It's foodgrade because it's used to sanitize the nipple and the milking machine prior to milking cows...so go figure.
To what ratio are you using this?Lil' Sparky said:I've been using WalMart's Povidone for many, many batches and haven't had a problem. The other inactive ingredients don't bother me.
ma2brew said:So I thought I'd be some kinda bargain hunter and check out the Rite Aid on the road between jobs. They had Betadine for $19.99 for 8 oz, which ain't a deal by any means compared to BTF's Iodophor, and they had their Rite Aid brand Povidone Iodine solution. The Rite aid brand not only had a 10% iodine active ingredient, but a number of "inactive" ingredients that I balked at, including Nonoxyl-9, which to my memory is a spermicide, WTF does that belong in an iodine solution for. There was also citric acid, sodium hydroxide and finally some water. It was kind of scary to read and ruled it out for me right away.
Fingers said:THANK YOU, Revvy! That's great! I just happen to live in an agricultural area. Is there a particular concentration that I should be looking for or is it a standard? One of the issues I had with the Iodophor from my HBS is that the concentration isn't listed so I don't know what to replace it with.
Revvy said:Keep me posted on the brand/cost and any info you find out.
There was some discussion on this a while back. It requires roughly the same concentration. I just look for that light amber hue like others have said. You can use it for starch conversion, too, but I use iodine tincture (when I do it, which isn't often anymore).ma2brew said:To what ratio are you using this?
Do you use it for starch conversion testing as well?
EvilTOJ said:Revvy you stole my iodine picture! Fingers, if you want the particulars off that bottle I can read the ingredients off later today when I get off work.
EvilTOJ said:Revvy you stole my iodine picture! Fingers, if you want the particulars off that bottle I can read the ingredients off later today when I get off work.
Revvy said:Because you're my hero for saving us boucoup bucks on sanitization!!!!
I'd like the particulars on the stuff too. I think finding this stuff is the single most important discovery for the cost effective (I.E. broke) brewer.
Fingers said:Thanks ETOJ, but I think anything I buy will have mixing instructions anyway. Unless I get the exact same product you have the concentration might be different so I'd be better off just following the directions on the bottle. I'll buy the strongest stuff I can that is meant for consumption. I hope to be able to look around sometime in the middle of next week or so. I'm not in that big of a hurry because I just bought a bottle so I won't need anymore for a couple of months.
I'm not a broke brewer, but I am of Scottish descent and common sense dictates that I'll not pay more for a product than is necessary. Not only that, I'd rather have a gallon sitting around than a small bottle. It's annoying having to remember to pick up more. I'd rather do that once a year or so.
EvilTOJ said:Once a year? heck, I've had this jug for almost three years and it's still half full. I'm not stingy with it either, I just dump it into a bucket with wild abandon. I don't really portion it out, per se, just a small bloop until the water turns iodine color.
Anyways, the active ingredient is Iodine at 1%. The inactive ingredients is Citric acid, nonoxynol-12, purified water, and sodium hydroxide. The nonoxynol is an additional microbe killer. Since it's for use on horses, cattle, swine, and sheep prior to surgical procedures such as castrating or docking, the instructions say to shake well, then apply the iodine directly on to the area to be treated. It says it can also be used in a pump sprayer with no dilution. There's no mixing instructions at all. So unless you plan on swabbing down big jim and the twins, you'll have to use your own discretion. As I said, I've used it for years and never had a problem either with contamination or with off flavors. I use it just like a no rinse sanitizer, just letting bottles air-dry.
JohnA111 said:So I don't know if it was this thread or some other regarding Idophor, but info indicated this could be bought at farm supply stores in bulk for astronomically cheaper prices than LHBS's. So I read this info about 20 minutes ago, and then came past a Countrymax. I go in and ask the manager if they have this, he says they used to as of a month ago but are no longer allowed to carry Iodine containing solutions in anything larger than 32oz at 7% strength max by law. Why you may ask this is a law in NYS now apparently? Methheads use it to make crank. Un - f'in - believable.
Any other NY'ers heard of this law? Anyone buying sanitizer at Farm Supply stores? What Countrymax did have was not deemed a food safe sanitizer and was similar to Betadine antiseptic - $26 for 16 Fl Oz. Off to the LHBS I go I guess!?!
JohnA111 said:I'm digging google for it, but I can't find any "law" regarding the ban of the sale of iodine in certain quantities. (Numerous cases involving empty iodine bottles being the tip to a DEA search warrant for methlabs can be found though )
Maybe this is just a store policy? I dunno. Any info would be appreciated if anyone knows of such a ban.
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