Iguana
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My wife loves Woodchuck so i thought i'd see if i can make a cider beer for her. anyone know where i can find a recipe?
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Darth Konvel
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Do you mean hard cider? Or are looking for a recipe that is beer that has apple / cider flavor?
Can any one explain the difference of "cider" and "hard cider" please?
I have a hard cider kit waiting to be started
I have a hard cider kit waiting to be started
Iguana
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El Pistolero
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You might get some more lookers if you post this under the cider forum.
Iguana
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El Pistolero said:
LOL...Didnt realize there was one. doh!
kneemoe
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my gramps makes his hard cider the real old fashioned way -
open cider
place in cellar with lid on
hope that it doesn't get infected
course, you get the best results with cider from the orchard, the type that hasn't been pasteurized (still got some goodies in it)
I haven't done it myself (this paragraphs idea that is), but i'd guess you could just add any ale yeast and place an airlock on there and you'd be good to go (same idea, you've got plenty of fermentables in there) i'd just try cheap dry yeast first so you dont loose out if things go wrong
open cider
place in cellar with lid on
hope that it doesn't get infected
course, you get the best results with cider from the orchard, the type that hasn't been pasteurized (still got some goodies in it)
I haven't done it myself (this paragraphs idea that is), but i'd guess you could just add any ale yeast and place an airlock on there and you'd be good to go (same idea, you've got plenty of fermentables in there) i'd just try cheap dry yeast first so you dont loose out if things go wrong
Figured it.
In the UK we have apple juice and Cider.
One is unfermented and the other is fermented.
Cider is apple juice!
Hard cider is just Cider!
In the UK we have apple juice and Cider.
One is unfermented and the other is fermented.
Cider is apple juice!
Hard cider is just Cider!
In the UK Cider = Fermented Apple Juice i.e. Hard Cider.
Apple juice is just plain apple juice.
Apple juice is just plain apple juice.
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
As with many things, the US and the UK has some mild divergence in language over time on the subject of names for specific types of apple beverages.
In the US what is commonly referred to as 'apple juice' is filtered and clairified apple cider. Apple juice in the US tends to be a golden color, similar to that of tequila or a flat, clear ale. Apple cider tends to be a brownish red color and will often contain pulp that will settle out over time.
Hard cider, in the US, is cider that has been allowed to ferment, thereby acquiring significant alcohol content.
So in the US one makes cider by pressing apples and collecting the runoff. Then you can take this cider and process it one of 2 ways: clairify and filter to get apple juice or ferment and get hard cider.
In the US what is commonly referred to as 'apple juice' is filtered and clairified apple cider. Apple juice in the US tends to be a golden color, similar to that of tequila or a flat, clear ale. Apple cider tends to be a brownish red color and will often contain pulp that will settle out over time.
Hard cider, in the US, is cider that has been allowed to ferment, thereby acquiring significant alcohol content.
So in the US one makes cider by pressing apples and collecting the runoff. Then you can take this cider and process it one of 2 ways: clairify and filter to get apple juice or ferment and get hard cider.
We just have apple juice and unfiltered apple juice with bits in. 
It just threw me, I've been drinking Cider for 20 years and had never heard of "Hard Cider".
Have you guys heard of Scrumpy Cider or Perry?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gunning/scrumpy/#intro
It just threw me, I've been drinking Cider for 20 years and had never heard of "Hard Cider".
Have you guys heard of Scrumpy Cider or Perry?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gunning/scrumpy/#intro
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
To my knowledge there is no ubiquitous American term for 'naturally fermented' hard cider.
I've not heard of pear based ciders here.
hadn't heard of it except for Archer's Orchard-- right?
I've not heard of pear based ciders here.
hadn't heard of it except for Archer's Orchard-- right?
as for the main question, it is easy. I did mine this way
5 gallons of apple cider (pasturized or unpasturized) your choice. There are two schools of though on pasturized and unpasturized. Anyway. I did 5 gallons pasturized.
Add that to your sanitary fermenter, pitch in chapange yeast. lets sit for 10 days. move to secondary for 2-3 weeks. prime and bottle. wait 2 more weeks, chill and enjoy
5 gallons of apple cider (pasturized or unpasturized) your choice. There are two schools of though on pasturized and unpasturized. Anyway. I did 5 gallons pasturized.
Add that to your sanitary fermenter, pitch in chapange yeast. lets sit for 10 days. move to secondary for 2-3 weeks. prime and bottle. wait 2 more weeks, chill and enjoy
It's as simple as Punn says, just be certain there are no preservatives in the juice.
By the way, do not over chill! If hard cider freezes, the resulting liquid (apple jack) is considered a distilled product and is illegal to make at home.
By the way, do not over chill! If hard cider freezes, the resulting liquid (apple jack) is considered a distilled product and is illegal to make at home.
kornkob said:
I can't remember the brand (the wife thinks it's Hornsby's, but I don't) but we were able to buy pear cider in some bars in San Jose, CA.
-walker
orfy said:We just have apple juice and unfiltered apple juice with bits in.
It just threw me, I've been drinking Cider for 20 years and had never heard of "Hard Cider".
Have you guys heard of Scrumpy Cider or Perry?
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gunning/scrumpy/#intro
Yes, I have had Scrumpy and too much of it.
We used to do pub crawl road trips when I was there. We'd charter a bus to take us to a location that had some good pubs and we'd make our way to each of them. One evening, I walked into this pub with my mates and to my surprise, there were wooden casks in stillage behind the bar. Beer engines were on the bar. I drank my fill of scrumpy poured straight from the cask. Cloudy and mighty tasty but it packed one hell of a kick. It was a rough bus ride back to the base that night.
Walker said:
It turns out that brand name of that pear cider I had is "Woodchuck". My friends in CA love the stuff and always have it in their fridge, so I called them and asked. You can get it at some pretty large chain grocery stores in CA, and I *think* I might have seen in here in North Carolina at a grocery store, but I'll have to pay more attention to that end of the beer aisle next time I'm in there.
-walker
kornkob
Resident Crazy Uncle
david_42 said:
While pears aren't a staple of Wisconsin orchards, they do grow here. I recall from childhood climbing the neigbor's fence to 'liberate' pears from their back yard.
But yes-- Wisconsin trends toward apples and cranberries in farming of fruits. Hmmm---- wonder what cranberry hard cider would be like.
kornkob said:
There's one way to find out....
I'm starting to eyeball all sorts of things at the grocery store and around the house, wondering if I can ferment it.
North Carolina is big on sweetened tea. REALLY sweet. This stuff has a higher gravity that the wort for my stout. I know it is not worthy of fermenting, but if it WAS.... it would probably be 6% or more ABV.
Darth Konvel
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I'm thinking about doing this sometime soon. From what I've read, you just don't want too much cranberry - unless you are looking for the tartest beverage you've ever drank. Maybe half cran half apple or so.kornkob said:
