Need help with homemade plate chiller.

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My buddy worked at a soda factory and still talks to the owner. The owner has a ton of these aluminum plates usaed to chill soda. Basically you lay it in an ice bath and pump liquid through 5 holes which snakes through the plate and then comes out 5 exit holes. My buddy said they use a keg and co2 to pump the liquid through.

I have three thoughts. One, I could probably use a regular auto siphon to pump the worth into the holes. This might not be the best as the siphon is plastic. My second thought is to use a pump and pump the worth through copper tubing into the holes. The last one is I could pour the sort into a 2.5 gallon keg and use o2 to push the worth through the beer out line of the keg throughout copper tubing into the holes of the plate.

What are your thoughts or concerns with this?
 
My suggestion would be to avoid plastic on the hot side of the plate. I also wouldn't want to go through the trouble of pushing it though with CO2 (you would need to xfer the hot wort into a keg first, and risk hot side aeration). That leaves you with gravity or pump fed.. and either is fine.. .just keep in mind that you may have to move the liquid through the plate fairly slowly to get it to the desired temp, so pumping may be unnecessary. Gravity is free :)
 
All your idea sound OK to me. The only problems I can think of would be pumping it to fast or using o2 at to high of a pressure and again moving it to fast through the chiller to cool it properly. I think your auto siphon would work just fine.
 
My thought is to buy an actual plate or counterflow chiller and use the cold plate (that's what it's called) for a jockey box as it was originally intended. ;) It's just not worth the hassle of trying to build a better mousetrap IMHO. Sure you could do it, but there are things out there that work so much better.
 
There definitely are better options but this option is free for me :)

It just seems like it would work really well and pretty easy to clean.

Yeah I guess pressurizing a keg might aerate it too much. Using plastic might not be the best idea but I figure I could use copper tubing on the racking cane so it isn't rubber tubes but it is still a plastic cane.

Maybe it is better to buy something but I just liked the idea of having the chill plate cooling the wort down. It seems like it would work really well.
 
It may work alright, but an immersion chiller would work better and you'd have an easier time of cleaning it.

If you want to chill better than that, you're really left with a plate chiller and a counterflow chiller.
 
My buddy said this plate is what they use for soda guns at bars. The syrup and carbonated water (both at room temp) go through the plate which is in a sink full of water and ice. The carbonated water and syrup mix in the gun and come out as soda. Maybe I'll have to try and mess around with it to see how it works but I would think this would cool the sort faster than an immersion chiller seeing as the soda comes out pretty cold.

Cleaning might not be as easy but I would just need to run hot water with oxiclean through it right after using it.
 
Cleaning might not be as easy but I would just need to run hot water with oxiclean through it right after using it.

Mmmm, watch cleaning aluminum with Oxygen based cleaners. It tends to eat it up pretty quickly.
 
Cold plates are worth a little $$. Unless you'd piss off your buddy doing this, you might be able to trade it to someone for a smaller plate chiller or a CFC, something that'd require a little less futzing around to make it work.
 
I don't think he would be mad. If I could sell it to get a nice set up, I would. He is also getting me kegs and all new fittings.

I was looking at some different chillers and some where $150+ which is too much for me right now...which is why I am trying to build one lol
 
Kegcowboy.com and Dudadiesel.com have some plate chillers for pretty cheap. Sell a few of these cold plates in the classified section here and you should be golden!
 
Yeah but a cold plate like that is easily $150+ as well. If you can't find someone to trade you, you should still be able to SELL it and get enough money to buy a real plate chiller.
 
You don't need to spend that much. I just bought a 40-plate chiller from Keg Cowboy for <$100. 40 plates is really overkill, anyway, you can get a 30 for like $72. Someone in the classifieds section was selling a Shirron chiller (I think) for $50.

What do you chill with now? For a lot of people, counterflow chillers or even simple immersion chillers are a good choice.
 
Kegcowboy.com and Dudadiesel.com have some plate chillers for pretty cheap. Sell a few of these cold plates in the classified section here and you should be golden!

If you sell a *couple*, you might want/need to share some of the proceeds with your buddy!
 
Right now I use an ice bath in my sink lol. I was going to buy an immersion or make one but I heard the plates cool faster.

I didn't know those sold for that much. Maybe ill have to do that.

He is hooking me up. I'm gonna either give him some cash or a bunch of homemade brews.
 
Honestly, I think you'll be happier with a simple immersion chiller than you would be trying to make a cold plate work. As noted, they're really designed to work with the beer under CO2 pressure; not sure how you'd do that when brewing, not dispensing. So, you'd probably end up needing a pump.

It's not going to be as efficient as a plate chiller, anyway. Plate chillers (and counterflow chillers) work by having cold hose water move in the opposite direction as the wort. This is just going to be immersed in cold water/ice - no counterflow action. That's fine for a cold plate - a cold plate just needs to bring beer down from ~70° (room temp) to ~40° (serving temp). For the brewing process, you need to get from 212° all the way down to ~70°.

Could you make it work? Probably. Be a lot easier to sell/swap for a chiller that's designed to do exactly what you want it to do.
 
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