keepitcold
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Hey Folks I have been looking but can't find much on mashing Oat Malt. I want to do a Oat cascade smash. Pretty much I want it to be 100% oats. Will it work or do I need to add a little 6 row for converting the oat malt?
Mashing Oat Malt
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FATC1TY
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You will need something to convert the oats, as they have no enzymes for conversion on their own. You will be hard pressed; IE: impossible to do an all oatmeal smash. Infact, it's not going to happen period. You'll end up with a hazy, thick, gumy mess.
I'd go no more than 1.5# of oats in your 5 gallon batch for success.
I'd go no more than 1.5# of oats in your 5 gallon batch for success.
He's using oat malt not flaked oats. Conversion isn't an issue but lack of husks may be. Rice hulls added to the mash might be a good idea.
FATC1TY
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See.. Long days, and drinking do nothing for reading comprehension.
I do however stand on the fact that a smash with that malt sounds pretty bad.
However, it does seem pretty good if you were doing a simple porter or brown ale maybe, add a bit of chocolate malt, and some nice english hop, or something like willamette and call it a day.
Agree 100%. There is a reason barley is the predominant grain used in beer.
Tantalus
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There's a good blog entry on this:
http://ryanbrews.blogspot.com/2009/12/100-oat-malt-mt-rainier-hops-smash-beer.html?m=1
And the results:
http://ryanbrews.blogspot.com/2010/07/100-oat-malt-mt-rainier-hops-smash-beer.html?m=1
Long story short, posters above are wrong.
http://ryanbrews.blogspot.com/2009/12/100-oat-malt-mt-rainier-hops-smash-beer.html?m=1
And the results:
http://ryanbrews.blogspot.com/2010/07/100-oat-malt-mt-rainier-hops-smash-beer.html?m=1
Long story short, posters above are wrong.
FATC1TY
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Glad to hear my opinion is wrong... Glad our taste buds are exactly the same. Never met anyone like that!!!
I like how one online "blog" of someone playing with the malt makes it the gospel as well. If you read it, the guy wasn't a fan of it. He said to suggest using his beer as a glaze, or blending it to make a shandy. Sounds like a real winner to sip on in the evenings for sure.
The he goes into saying what recipes it would for in, if you were looking for the grainy texture and profile in a beer.
Sounds like he wasn't a fan, the one person to documented trying it as a smash.
I have done a 100% oat malt beer, although the oats were from a local artisan maltster not the Thomas Fawcett ones. I did not like the results very much, oats are pretty distinctive. At first I did not like it at all, the beer improved and then went down hill. I did use wy3068 as I figured oats were pretty boring. Some others did like it more than I did but nobody was asking for seconds LOL.
If you really like that oat flavour go for it but I would not recommend it. There is a reason why the poor folks drank oat beer in olden England and why we use barley today for beer.
If you really like that oat flavour go for it but I would not recommend it. There is a reason why the poor folks drank oat beer in olden England and why we use barley today for beer.
jja
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I have used TF oat malt. Contrary to above, the husk % is higher than barley so no worries lautering. IIRC it seemed like the kernel didn't fill the husk almost.
I usually did 20% in stout or ESB, but also did 80% stouts and 100% oat wine, which was quite different. Not bad but not as sweet, full, and bready as barleywine. High % stout had enough other malt character to be nice.
The TF oat malt back then was also always quite hazy unless an agressive protein rest and long aging-- thus stouts are nice to hide that with color.
I usually did 20% in stout or ESB, but also did 80% stouts and 100% oat wine, which was quite different. Not bad but not as sweet, full, and bready as barleywine. High % stout had enough other malt character to be nice.
The TF oat malt back then was also always quite hazy unless an agressive protein rest and long aging-- thus stouts are nice to hide that with color.
I have never had that, from reading what it is I would rather have it than and oat beer though.
ryane
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Im the one who did the Oat malt SMASH, it was an interesting experiment to say the least.
Would I do it again?
No, the flavor of the malt on its own is too rustic and grainy, I do think it would be great as a small compliment to something like a biere de garde or dark porter/stout, to add the oaty aroma and a bit of a grainy/rustic/rough edge
