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I'll keep this short and sweet. I'm looking for an "american red ale" recipe...not an american amber...a nice, hoppy IIPA with a solid malt backbone (think troegs nugget nectar, bear republic red rocket, sam adams tasmian red).

Troegs Nugget nectar uses 80% vienna so I'm set on using that. I'm considering the special B in a low dose for color and small flavor addition, and the 1oz roasted barley mostly for color. I figure I can get a lot of color from the vienna itself. without further adieu, here's the recipe

Code:
50 IPA - Imperial IPA
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Batch Size: 5.693 gal
Boil Size: 6.750 gal
Boil Time: 0.000 s
Efficiency: 70%%
OG: 1.080
FG: 1.020
ABV: 7.8%%
Bitterness: 75.6 IBUs (Tinseth)
Color: 12 SRM (Morey)

Fermentables
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                   Name  Type    Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
            Vienna Malt Grain 13.000 lb    Yes   No  78%%   4 L
   Pale Malt (2 Row) US Grain  4.000 lb    Yes   No  79%%   2 L
         Special B Malt Grain  4.000 oz    Yes   No  65%% 160 L
         Roasted Barley Grain  1.000 oz     No   No  55%% 300 L
 Sugar, Table (Sucrose) Sugar  8.000 oz     No   No 100%%   1 L
Total grain: 17.812 lb

Hops
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                   Name  Alpha   Amount     Use       Time   Form  IBU
             Centennial 10.5%% 1.500 oz    Boil 60.000 min Pellet 40.7
 Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus 15.5%% 1.000 oz    Boil 15.000 min Pellet 19.9
                Cascade  6.0%% 1.000 oz    Boil 10.000 min Pellet  5.6
               Amarillo  9.5%% 1.000 oz    Boil  5.000 min Pellet  4.9
 Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus 15.5%% 1.000 oz    Boil  2.000 min Pellet  3.4
             Centennial 10.5%% 1.000 oz    Boil  1.000 min Pellet  1.2
                 Simcoe 13.0%% 1.000 oz    Boil    0.000 s Pellet  0.0

               Amarillo  9.5%% 1.000 oz Dry Hop  7.000 day Pellet  0.0
 Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus 15.5%% 1.000 oz Dry Hop  7.000 day Pellet  0.0

Yeast
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        Name Type Form     Amount   Stage
 Safale S-05  Ale  Dry 1.167 tbsp Primary

any thoughts or suggestions on the grain or hop bill? As for yeast I'll be pitching 1.5 packs of s-05 dry.
 
I would double the Special "B" and the roast barley amounts to 1/2# and 2oz, respectively, you don't have enough in there to make it actually turn red. For the roasted barley, grind it up in a coffee grinder or a blender, into a powder, and sprinkle it on top of the mash right before volauf. I did this with my SN Celebration clone and it gave it the appropriate color without any noticeable roast flavor at all.
 
Loos pretty good to be. My only hesitation would be at the special B. I have used twice that much and the flavor is very prominent and in IIPAs I hesitate to use much dark caramel at all. I have a feeling you will get enough malty character from the 80% vienna. You could use more roasted barley if all you are looking for is the color.

You might also consider bumping the IBUs up some. For IPAs and the like, I like to go with a 1:1 BU:GU ratio. Maybe even higher for a IIPA.
 
Sounds good, thanks for the suggestions. I think i'll double and late add the roasted barley, and up the bittering addition to 2 oz. I figure i'll mash around 151 to dry it out.
 
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