The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Wine, Mead, Cider, Sake & Soda > Soda Making > True cherry cola?

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-29-2013, 01:25 AM   #1
daft
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 164
Liked 6 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 15

Default True cherry cola?

There are various extracts or complex recipes, but what would be needed to really hit the nail on the head for homemade cherry cola? It doesn't have to exactly replicate the commercial stuff, but I want it to have that essential kick. Nothing like the generic crap, like from the Refreshe copycat brand, and maybe not even like wild cherry pepsi.

Reading from "homemade soda" by Schloss, ALL cherry flavored concoctions are based on almonds. They remove the cyanide from bitter almonds which gives a more concentrated source of the same thing from cherry pits. I think this may be right, and actual cherry flesh or juice seems to pale in flavor from the almond based stuff which just shouts cherry. Maybe a remnant of cyanide adds some tingle?

They also say the origin of Coke came from Pemberton's French Wine Coca having to remove the wine due to Atlanta temperance laws. Cocaine leaf infused wine was popular in Europe and the US, so Coca Cola wasn't guilty of adding cocaine to the drink but subtracting the alcohol. He substituted Kola nut, and later had to de-cocainize their coca leaves.

"Fix the Pumps" book points to the company authorized to decocainize almost half a million pounds of leaves yearly for Coke, and names a company that sells these leaves legally for tea. So again, is something legal but close to toxic needed for the real, satisfying thing? The author on his artofdrink website seems to have backed off suggesting "extract of coca" and "extract of kola" according to his book for making cola, but...?

__________________
daft is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-03-2013, 04:54 PM   #2
justtaint
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 42
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stepan_Company
__________________
justtaint is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-03-2013, 08:00 PM   #3
daft
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 164
Liked 6 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 15

Default

http://www.mysteriousbolivian.com/servlet/StoreFront
Quote:
"Decocainized" coca tea will still contain a minute quantity of the drug. When the cocaine is removed, the amount of cocaine is small enough for the product to legally sell in the USA according to the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs
http://www.mysteriousbolivian.com/se...e-Fresh/Detail
Quote:
A A Grade Fresh Organic Coca Leaves From Peru. 100 grams ( Preorder May 13th)

Web Store Owned and Operated by Reyes Avila LLC, Boston - MA
http://www.mysteriousbolivian.com/se...oAndina/Detail
Quote:
Coca Extract, the liquid is typically swished or gargled for about half a minute to a minute till it numbs and then can be swallowed; The Coca Extract can be also mixed with any soda or fruit juice. Do not use more than 2 oz per day, do not drive or operate machines after drinking the extract.
http://www.playingwithfireandwater.c...zaldehyde.html
Quote:
Benzaldehyde is the essence of bitter almonds, which unlike sweet almonds contain hydrogen cyanide, a potentially lethal toxin. It is a fragrant volatile molecule and a by-product of cyanide production. Pure almond extract is pure Benzaldehyde, without the cyanide. It is used in the making of marzipan, maraschino cherries, amaretto liqueur, and amaretti biscuits and occurs naturally in the fruits, leaves, flowers and bark of stone fruits. It is the eminent aroma compound in the complex flavor of peaches, apricots, and cherries. The highest concentrations can be found in the kernels of these fruits, which must be heated in order to destroy the toxin. Benzaldehyde is also present in beer
__________________
daft is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 05-11-2013, 05:37 AM   #4
daft
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 164
Liked 6 Times on 5 Posts
Likes Given: 15

Default

OK, I found some Bolivian Blast Off Juice in my mailbox today. Darn it, I didn't get the discount because probably I forgot to type in the special code... so $60 for a legal coca extract pint, delivered. At least no swat team came with it; I thought I might get a free cancer screening in the form of a body cavity search. The fat bottle with narrow neck won't pour properly... either drools down the bottle or glugs too fast. The spills I make now may leave a trace of something that drug dogs could give false alarms on.

Gee, it's smell was familiar... whiskey and medicine odor. Sort of like Nytol knockout stuff for colds. Sipping a bit gave an unpleasant medicine taste carried in something like whiskey. Wham, it numbs your mouth and tongue in an instant... stronger than kava. Before making cola with it, I first tried it in a soda I am very attuned to... lemon colada. OK, it did seem to add kind of a coke-like backbone to it, but didn't seem to belong in a fruity drink.

Then I added coca extract to carbed water with artificial cola extract, a dash of froze lemonade concentrate, and agave syrup... yeah! Not exactly coke, but very satisfying in a sense of that edgy backbone that is missing in fruity-tooty drinks. What are the proportions? I dunno, the cocajuice amount is uncontrollable and I guess I went lighter than normal with agave syrup which can otherwise smother things honeylike. I later tried to make a cherry cola where the cherry and agave dominated even a lot of coca juice... blah.

I will try to recreate the working plain cola (maybe with half HFCS and half agave) and post results in my sodastream syrup thread. I am so miffed by the price and not getting the discount that I probably won't get another. I have a line on pepsin extract used for pepsi, and have even thought about just adding a chewable aspirin to kola extract for a bit of that mediciney counterbalance.

__________________
daft is online now
Kythcat Likes This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Best cherry form for adding to a cider? Attempting to make a Cherry Bomb MTate37 Cider Forum 18 11-07-2012 01:05 PM
Cherry Cola Recipe? hoptopia Soda Making 2 09-10-2012 06:18 AM
Cola Brew (No Actual Cola Involved) zgardener General Beer Discussion 8 02-17-2011 12:53 AM
Cherry Cola? greencoat Soda Making 3 04-11-2010 03:35 PM
fix my cola jtrainer Soda Making 2 11-07-2009 04:57 PM