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Old 07-07-2011, 01:57 PM   #21
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Thank You all for the information and advice.

I wont be using a kegerator.. and not sure what you mean by beverage line. What does a kegerator do exactly?

I will be keeping my liquid at 32 degrees F in a 2 liter PLASTIC PET bottle.. dispensing the co2 into the liquid ( homemade flavor) using a proper hose and using a co2 tank.

Does the PSI change if the vessel is bigger? A can has 40 on the link above.. but i am going for 2 liter.

I will try a low PSI to begin.. 40 PSI - as suggested.. and experiment with going higher.
I think i will be able to see results at 40-60 and determine what i need from there.

If the plastic bottle breaks.. i think i would notice it warping and getting tighter so i would stop pumping pressure in.

How does this sound?

Also.. how long do you let it settle before you remove the cap? to avoid eruption?

thanks.


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Old 07-07-2011, 06:02 PM   #22
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I convinced now this has got to be a joke.
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Old 07-07-2011, 06:15 PM   #23
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not a joke at all.

i find everyone says something diferent..keg connection says 30 to 40.. in this thread a lower psi is recomended.

double checked my info and found he Has tested up until 150 psi.. but says to work at 130 or under.
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Old 07-07-2011, 09:02 PM   #24
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Thank You all for the information and advice.

I wont be using a kegerator.. and not sure what you mean by beverage line. What does a kegerator do exactly?

I will be keeping my liquid at 32 degrees F in a 2 liter PLASTIC PET bottle.. dispensing the co2 into the liquid ( homemade flavor) using a proper hose and using a co2 tank.

Does the PSI change if the vessel is bigger? A can has 40 on the link above.. but i am going for 2 liter.

I will try a low PSI to begin.. 40 PSI - as suggested.. and experiment with going higher.
I think i will be able to see results at 40-60 and determine what i need from there.

If the plastic bottle breaks.. i think i would notice it warping and getting tighter so i would stop pumping pressure in.

How does this sound?

Also.. how long do you let it settle before you remove the cap? to avoid eruption?

thanks.
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not a joke at all.

i find everyone says something diferent..keg connection says 30 to 40.. in this thread a lower psi is recomended.

double checked my info and found he Has tested up until 150 psi.. but says to work at 130 or under.
Thats what I thought he would have been saying, don't go over 150 psi MAX, don't even go close!
If you want the same level of carb as a can and it is 40 psi for the can you need to use 40 psi for your bottle, the co2 dissolved doesn't care about volume. It will take longer to carb larger volumes though. Most people on here look at about 2-3 weeks minimum for the set and forget method with carbing beer in kegs.
What I suggest is get that setup that you linked to on keg connect (ignore all those post about beverag lines and kegs as you don't have these);
fill as per the instructions in the kit (Hopefully they tell you to leave a some headroom of air above the liquid in the bottle, make sure you do this);
set the pressure to 40 psi while standing clear of the PET bottle to make sure it doesn''t explode for whatever reason;
then take the bottle and shake it until you can not hear the CO2 hissing from the tank anymore;
Disconnect and leave in the fridge for an hour then cheak if it is carbed to you liking, if not reconnect to 40 psi and shake some more.

Good luck
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thank you
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:24 PM   #26
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The fizz giz site even says that their dispenser has a safety on it so that it won't ever get above 55psi. If the guy supplying the kits can't even read his own FAQ, I wouldn't listen to him about anything.

The reason you're getting varying information is because there are several techniques for carbing and some of them use elevated pressures to speed the carbonation along. Since you're using those fizz giz caps, you have no way of leaving the pressure applied over time so you'll probably be doing the shake method. Apply 40psi to a cold bottle of soda and shake it for about 5 minutes. Remove the gas and leave it in the fridge for 20 minutes.
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I can see what's happening here. If you charge a room temp 2-liter up to a hundred psi... it doesn't STAY at 100 psi. as soon as you chill it down and the CO2 dissolves, the remaining pressure will be MUCh MUCH lower. Here's the story:

This salesman guy is telling him to charge the bottle up a bunch so that all he has to do is pop it in the fridge and come back tomorrow to carbed up soda. It's the wrong way to do it. It has potential for danger. But I get it.

The right way to do it... ie the way all the experienced folks here are describing... is to chill the drink down to fridge temp, charge the bottle to 40 (or 25 or 30 or whatever) psi and shake it up disolving the CO2. Then charge it up to 40 and shake some more. Repeat this until the pressure stops dropping and you have properly carbed soda.

BTW it's been said, but it bears repeating. DO NOT under any circumstances charge any unrated container up to pressures like what you are suggesting. It IS a bomb at that point, it WILL explode, it WILL hurt someone. Period. End of discussion. That's all. here's a video.

Don't even think about messing around with this kind of power. You clearly don't know what you are getting into.


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