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MFDave 01-17-2009 08:03 PM

Avocado Soda Possible?
 
You may be thinking "What the hell?". But avocado actually makes a really good dessert, whether it's avocado ice cream or avocado mousse. I thought it would be awesome to make an avocado soda, maybe even like an avocado cream soda.

If you're still with me....

I'm assuming there's not going to be an avocado extract readily on the market to make soda with. Sooo... Does anyone know how exactly I could extract the avocado flavor? If I have to do it naturally, even better.

Your thoughts please. :mug:

The Blow Leprechaun 01-17-2009 11:38 PM

Huh. This is an interesting idea. I have no idea how to go about extracting the avocado flavor. I think the problem you might run into is the fat content in avocado would do badly in a soda, and I suspect that the flavor compounds are fat soluble and not alcohol or water soluble.

Your best bet might be to whirl some avocado in a blender with some water and just run with that rather than an extraction, but I don't know if that would work.

You need a food chemist, I think!

EDIT: I talked to a friend of mine who's gone through culinary training and he thinks the only chance you've got short of finding something online is a steam extraction. Pretty much you put a bowl inside a pot with room between the edges of the bowl and the sides of the pot, boil cut up avocado in some water and put a lid on the pot inverted, then some ice on top of the lid. The steam rises up, condenses, and drips down into the bowl. He doesn't know if it'll work, but it's something to attempt if you've got an avocado lying around.

MFDave 01-18-2009 01:11 AM

Thanks for the info. So essentially it's like making the avocado sweat it's flavor out? I'll give that a try. I've seen avocado flavored drinking water, so there must be some kind of way. Maybe I'll check some food chemistry books out of the library. I've been trying to take the scientific approach to brewing anyways, so this'll be interesting.

Update: I searched for avocado flavor extract on Google and there's some flavor development company that makes it but there's no link where to purchase it or anything. I shall continue the search.

MFDave 01-18-2009 11:59 PM

I remember reading this thread a while back where a dude did a pumpkin-based soda by boiling the pumpkin. http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f95/fall-soda-recipe-80641/

So I'd assume the steam method would work even better because it'd be closer to pure flavor instead of a mix of flavor and water. I'm gonna try both ways (the steam extraction and straight boil) and see what I can come up with. Luckily avocados are on sale this week at the grocery store.

BrewinJack 01-19-2009 12:02 AM

huh??? you mean like guecamole (sp?) soda pop... well in mexico they make chili soda... so i guess... sorry but i think this is a bit weird... but if it floats your boat

Cheers

MFDave 01-19-2009 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrewinJack (Post 1073437)
huh??? you mean like guecamole (sp?) soda pop... well in mexico they make chili soda... so i guess... sorry but i think this is a bit weird... but if it floats your boat

Cheers

Not so much guacamole-flavored. Normally guacamole is avocado mixed with spices so it has a different texture and flavor than pure avocado. Contrary to popular belief, avocado is actually a fruit. So when you whip avocado with a little bit of sweetness, it's actually very dessert-like. Avocado ice cream and mousse is actually a very common dessert in a lot of high-end restaurants. So I was thinking once I figure a way to extract the flavor, trying it with a bit of a cream mix. The way I see it, if Jones Soda Co. can make Turkey And Gravy pop, a man can at least make an obscure fruit-flavored pop.

merddyn2002 01-26-2009 07:04 PM

I'm really interested to hear how this turns out. Keep us posted if you dont mind.

Brew-Happy 01-26-2009 07:17 PM

I would be interested as well. The only issue I would expect is the avocado flesh turning dark (oxidation?). Maybe a little citric acid in your soda would help this. It would be accelerated by the heating process in my mind.

Thoughts:

1. blend the flesh in water, 1:2 flesh to water ratio. Then strain it out with a colander or cheese cloth.
2. What sweetner works best with avocado in your experience? Honey comes to mind but so would agave nectar.
3. Does avocado have anything it that would reduce fermentation of yeast for carbing?

Now I am seriously curious. I am thinking this would be great with a touch of chipotle flavor.

Keep us posted.

brewthunda 01-26-2009 08:09 PM

I've seen avocado juice listed on drink menus in Thailand and Indonesia. I never tried it, but when they say "juice", they mean juice, water and sugar. So an orange juice would be oj, water and sugar blended up. Avocado juice must have just been avocado, water and sugar, too.

I'd be tempted to just puree avocado with sugar and a bit of lemon juice (to prevent oxidation) and toss it in the fridge - and then mix with soda water when you're ready to weird out your foodie friends.

The Blow Leprechaun 01-27-2009 12:35 PM

All soda should have some acid anyway in my experience, either lemon juice or an acid blend. You might want to add it at the beginning of dealing with the avocado instead of at the end when everything is together.


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