What variety of hops is this? (it very closely resembles hemp)

Trogdor · 08-28-2009, 02:15 AM

The following photos were taken last fall. This year I have taken cuttings from
the plant pictured and I am working on keeping them alive till next year.

As you can see, this particular variety of hops is distinctly 5-lobed, although
the leaves spawned on the flower stalks are always distinctly 3-lobed. As my
variety is inconsistent with all the photos i've seen for Humulus japonicus, I am
convinced that this plant is either a very distinct variety of Humulus lupulus, or
a separate species altogether. In this unlikely case I would like it to be named
"Humulus indica" (in reference to Cannabis indica, which it closely resembles).

homebrewer_99 · 08-28-2009, 04:50 AM

Welcome to the forum!!!

I don't recognize the hop type, but MJ and hops are in the same family. So the fact that they look alike is easily understood...I did notice the odd number of leaves though...very suspicious looking...

salad 419 · 08-28-2009, 06:12 AM

I just can't believe you haven't had the five-O at your house, yet.
That is interesting. Where did you get those "hops"?
Have you made beer with them, yet?

**BarleyWater** · 08-28-2009, 06:18 AM

Could be Sunbeam, also known as Golden Hops, which is commonly used as an ornamental plant in gardens to cover trellises and things. Don't know that it has much use in brewing.

Trogdor · 08-28-2009, 08:00 AM

Well for one this hops isn't golden, it's very green. Google had 2 photos of that breed and they look nothing like mine. As for the location of the plant in the photo, it is inside of a property that is surrounded by the property my friend owns, and yes, it is in plain view of a public alley in the middle of the city. I can only guess how long the plant has been there, but for the 2 seasons I've seen it grow it won the war against the virginia creeper and the grapevine that poke over the fence at the same place (I watched in amazement as the hops gradually completely choked out the virginia creeper that had an early lead). I didn't make beer last year as I was concerned about parasites, but now I've got cuttings growing in a controlled environment so I'm hoping for next year. I'm new to horticulture but I was very impressed with how fast my cuttings were growing in water before the roots even showed up.

It's the vine that's not really a vine that grows like a weed but looks like a different weed...

gunnyg · 08-28-2009, 12:11 PM

Could it be one of them thar "grafted" cross varieties nobody on public forums wantsa talk bout???

Gunny G's: BEER, HOMBREWING, FORUM, Etc. BREW YOUR OWN BEER!: Ya just never know where those "censored" hop stories are going to turn up, do ya?

Trogdor · 08-28-2009, 03:54 PM

to my knowledge, while you can graft hops onto hemp successfully, it will not alter the genetics of either the hops or the hemp.

gunnyg · 08-28-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trogdor

to my knowledge, while you can graft hops onto hemp successfully, it will not alter the genetics of either the hops or the hemp.

***************

Yep--to MY knowledge either--that's why I posted the word of an "expert"...

Recreational Drugs

who has knowledge of such things.

Of course we only have his word on it.

Dick G
*****

Trogdor · 08-28-2009, 04:44 PM

your expert indicates that cannabinoids will travel through the hops plant. this is not true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://forums.mycotopia.net/grassroots/8539-grafting-hops-cannabis-stock.html

In 1975, the research team of Crombie and Crombie grafted hops scions on Cannabis stocks from both hemp and marijuana (Thailand) plants 205. Cannabis scions were also grafted to hops stocks. In both cases, the Cannabis portion of the graft continued to produce its characteristic amounts of cannabinoids when compared to ungrafted controls, but the hops portions of the grafts contained no cannabinoids. This experiment was well-designed and carried out. Sophisticated methods were used for detecting THC, THCV, CBD, CBC, CBN, and CBG. Yet none of these were detected in the hops portions.

jway · 08-28-2009, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trogdor

your expert indicates that cannabinoids will travel through the hops plant. this is not true.

I agree, but you could graft marijuana stems (including flower buds) onto hemp plants and create hemp-looking plants with thc-producing marijuana flowers. lol

..either way, marijuana should be as legal for us to grow as beer is for us to brew. Keeping it illegal just makes the cartels fat and ruthless. 7,000 people will be murdered by the cartels this year because marijuana's illegal - that's as stupid as making beer illegal again!

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