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Old 04-22-2010, 08:59 PM   #1
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Default Trimming Extra Bines

I know that you should cut back the extra bines after training the ones you want to keep. How about the secondary growth that grows from the lower part of the bine between the leaves and the bine? The same place the cones grow from on the upper part of the bine.

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Old 04-22-2010, 09:04 PM   #2
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Do NOT trim the sidearms.

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Old 04-22-2010, 09:38 PM   #3
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if you are talking about the secondary growth that occurs after you have cut back the shoot, you will see THAT growth turn into a new shoot to replace the growing tip you removed earlier. if that's what you're trying to ask. if that is the case, you should go a little deeper when you whack the undesired growth off. i find that if you grab the shoot near the base and pull with a steady force, you can most of the time remove it from where it was coming off the rhizome.

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Old 04-22-2010, 09:46 PM   #4
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Do NOT trim the sidearms.
Ok, just wondering why. Don't the "side arms" take strength from the main bines?
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Yes but flowers grow from those.

If it's growing from teh main bine let it be. Additional flower groups will emerge along the sidearm at each leaf node.

If it's emerging from the soil cut it back regularly.

the only maintenance the sidearms need is occasional detangling from the neighboring bine group. this is more aesthetic than anything but, if you loive in a windy area it can also mitigate the sidearms from getting ripped apart on windy days.

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Old 04-22-2010, 10:00 PM   #6
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Warning!Warning! Thread jacker here. I dug up a large group of rhizomes instead of buying single ones. Should I trim back the smaller undergrowth? How many bines should I get from a rhizome to grow. The group I planted probably had 10 or more viable rhizomes in one big clump that I planted in a small raised bed.

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Yes but flowers grow from those.

If it's growing from teh main bine let it be. Additional flower groups will emerge along the sidearm at each leaf node.

If it's emerging from the soil cut it back regularly.

the only maintenance the sidearms need is occasional detangling from the neighboring bine group. this is more aesthetic than anything but, if you loive in a windy area it can also mitigate the sidearms from getting ripped apart on windy days.
So just let them grow like a bush. Don't train them up the twine.
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Old 04-23-2010, 03:40 PM   #8
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So just let them grow like a bush. Don't train them up the twine.
You need to string the main bines up the strings. Any other grown from the crown should be trimmed regularly.

Leave the sidearms to go where ever they want, for the most part. It won't look like a bush at all.
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So just let them grow like a bush. Don't train them up the twine.
I think terminology is getting mixed up here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/98exl/2549127740/sizes/m/

Is a good pic of a side arm developing.
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Yep. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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