Ss Brewing Technologies Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Hops Growing > Trade for Golding Rhizomes? / Clusters
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-19-2013, 04:47 PM   #1
roastquake
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Aiken, SC
Posts: 1,625
Liked 241 Times on 201 Posts
Likes Given: 148

Default Trade for Golding Rhizomes? / Clusters

Two questions:

1. I will be digging up rhizomes of a third-year Goldings plant. They didn't do so well, maybe because of the climate here in South Carolina, I'm not too sure but I'm willing to trade for some different varieties. Does anyone have some rhizomes you want to trade? Something that might do well in a moist, hot climate?

2. Does anyone know why I cannot find rhizomes for my favorite hop, Cluster? Are they legally protected by their growers? I would be willing to buy or trade them.

__________________
roastquake is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-19-2013, 07:22 PM   #2
B-Hoppy
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
B-Hoppy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ohio
Posts: 1,285
Liked 132 Times on 105 Posts
Likes Given: 230

Default

Sorry, no Cluster to trade here just Simcoe, but if you pick them really late they kind of pick up that 'Cluster' character. Just foolin'. You could try some Canadian Redvines which are pretty similar to Cluster and are very vigorous, even enough to grow down your way. Check out freshops.com in a month or two as I know they sell Redvine rhizomes. Hop on!

__________________
B-Hoppy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-20-2013, 08:25 PM   #3
jester5120
The Vanilla Gorilla
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
jester5120's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: DuBois, PA
Posts: 747
Liked 19 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 20

Default

when the ground thaws a little more i'll have a ton of cascade rhizomes and some crowns i'd like to get rid of for english varieties. I know these aren't the most exciting variety but i got them for sure. I transplanted some centennial, chinook, columbus, nugget, and willamette at the end of the season so it's possible those will have some rhizomes as well.

__________________
PrimaryLambic (WYeast blend), Local Lambic (spontaneous fermentation), Flanders Red with ECY02, Sour Rye (w/BugCounty)
SecondaryFlanders Red, Frambrozen, Grimm V2
Bottled Burton Ale, Wet Hopped IPA, Roese Kriek, "Grimm" RIS 23%, Saison Du Flood,"Warrior" IIPA 17%, "Oaked Warrior" IIPA 17%
Kegged Hip Hop IPA, Chocolate Cream Stout
jester5120 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-20-2013, 08:31 PM   #4
alane1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South East Massachusetts
Posts: 636
Liked 157 Times on 118 Posts
Likes Given: 116

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jester5120 View Post
when the ground thaws a little more i'll have a ton of cascade rhizomes and some crowns i'd like to get rid of for english varieties. I know these aren't the most exciting variety but i got them for sure. I transplanted some centennial, chinook, columbus, nugget, and willamette at the end of the season so it's possible those will have some rhizomes as well.
I'm dividing my fuggles this spring, I would definatly be interested in centennial and chinook.pm me if you're interested.
__________________
alane1 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-20-2013, 11:29 PM   #5
roastquake
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Aiken, SC
Posts: 1,625
Liked 241 Times on 201 Posts
Likes Given: 148

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jester5120
when the ground thaws a little more i'll have a ton of cascade rhizomes and some crowns i'd like to get rid of for english varieties. I know these aren't the most exciting variety but i got them for sure. I transplanted some centennial, chinook, columbus, nugget, and willamette at the end of the season so it's possible those will have some rhizomes as well.
I had very good results with cascades, I will message you when I dig those Goldings
__________________
roastquake is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 01-21-2013, 12:04 AM   #6
gbx
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 629
Liked 72 Times on 59 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by roastquake View Post
2. Does anyone know why I cannot find rhizomes for my favorite hop, Cluster? Are they legally protected by their growers? I would be willing to buy or trade them.
Cluster was a popular hop in the 1800's, I'm sure they are not protected. I doubt it had any kind of legal protection back then but if it did it must have expired at least a century ago They are probably hard to find because the demand is so low.
__________________
gbx is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-10-2013, 04:15 PM   #7
brewerelated
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
Posts: 151
Liked 59 Times on 47 Posts
Likes Given: 33

Default

I would like a cluster rhizome as well. If anybody can get a hold of one please PM me, I would be willing to trade.

__________________
brewerelated is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2013, 11:34 PM   #8
nagmay
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 227
Liked 123 Times on 73 Posts
Likes Given: 110

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Hoppy View Post
You could try some Canadian Redvines which are pretty similar to Cluster and are very vigorous
Clusters and RedVine are very different plants, but have a strange interconnection. According to the USDA records, RedVine was often planted in cluster fields to "increase" yield. Workers were paid by the rhizome when digging for new fields - since RedVine puts out massive roots - the new fields were almost entirely RedVine.

So, it is possible, that what you thought was Cluster was actually RedVine...

Last time I checked, RedVine were for sale at Great Lakes Hops.
__________________
nagmay is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-12-2013, 11:43 PM   #9
nagmay
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 227
Liked 123 Times on 73 Posts
Likes Given: 110

Default

Or, if you want real Clusters...

HopsDirect recently posted this on Facebook:
"The following rhizome varieties will be available for purchase via www.hopsdirect.com the first week of March: Cascade, Centennial, Chinook, Cluster, Galena, Magnum, Mt. Hood, Nugget, Tettnanger, and Willamette. Rhizomes are $7.00 each, Cheers!"

Cheers!

__________________
nagmay is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-13-2013, 12:59 AM   #10
B-Hoppy
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
B-Hoppy's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ohio
Posts: 1,285
Liked 132 Times on 105 Posts
Likes Given: 230

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nagmay View Post

So, it is possible, that what you thought was Cluster was actually RedVine...
Back in the late 80's/early 90's, I was given some rhizomes and were told they were Canadian Redvine. Never heard of them so I contacted Dr. Al over at the USDA farm in Corvallis. He asked me to send him some to grow to find out if they actually were because when they were ripped up (long ago), no one ever thought of saving some for the gene pool. He confirmed (through oil testing) that they actually were and now has them growing across the river at the germplasm repository. My 15 minutes of hop fame, hahaha!
__________________
B-Hoppy is offline
2
People Like This 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
For Sale - Hop rhizomes: Fuggle, Golding, Mt. Hood - or trade for whole hops sleepystevenson For Sale 11 05-03-2011 01:15 PM
What are US Golding hops best for? GregoryShmegory General Beer Discussion 3 02-21-2011 03:48 AM
Are these male hop clusters? vtbeerman Hops Growing 3 08-07-2009 04:43 PM
Willamette and US Golding bierhaus15 Recipes/Ingredients 8 07-05-2009 05:21 PM
Rhizomes for trade/practically free joebou4860 Recipes/Ingredients 6 04-18-2007 02:42 PM