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Old 04-27-2010, 05:32 PM   #1
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I'll be growing 1 rhizome per half whiskey barrel, and I've bought metal tomato support structures that are about 50 inches tall. It's a circle cone shape, getting wider at the top, that has 4 metal spokes to put in the ground.

I'm wondering should I stick these spokes right in the soil in the whiskey barrels, or will they get too entagled with the roots? Should I just use twine, or should I put the metal spokes in the ground soil outside the barrel?

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Old 04-27-2010, 06:13 PM   #2
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only 50" tall?

It won't get tangled with roots, but that's not nearly tall enough, even for first year.

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Old 04-27-2010, 06:46 PM   #3
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Well what I plan to do is use twine to either tie to a tree or put the whiskey barrels far apart and use twine to tie the supports together, and have the bines crawl sideways along them. Is this an ok idea, or should I make sure they're growing vertically?

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Not trying to be an ass but, i think you need to read more about what you are getting yourself into.

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I wish someone had told me that 3 years ago, LOL!
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Same here brother. And I was much, much more prepared.
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haha no offense taken. Well, I've listened to your advice, and found a place that's between two trees, about 30 or 40 feet long. I can use the metal 5 foot romato structure things to train the bines originally, and then when they start growing tall I'll string a twine high up between the two trees, and let them grow up on that.

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I used those tomato cages this year to mark the area where the Rhizomes are so nobody would mess with them. Kind of ignored them and all of a sudden my bines were wrapped around the cages so they are staying. I ran some metal posts next to the cages and some strong nylon fishing line to the eaves of my house. So they have a 25 foot run potential this year. Last year my first year hops, one of them made the 25 foot mark.

Advantage to the cage is, really nothing that I can think of.


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As an addition, I just ordered a few rhizomes, golding and glacier, to start things off with this year, and am hoping to get some cascade, centennial and chinook next year.

My yard is already fenced in, and is not something I want to have hops vines growing on, across, or through. I've been trying to find some information on what I could do as far as a trellis of some sort, but have decided I would like to keep it simple. My original thought was basically two 16' 4x4 cedar poles, stuck into the ground about 3-4', with one post running along the top, connecting to each. I'd then hang twine/rope down from this horizontal pole for the vines to climb. I figured I could experiment with this the first year or so, and modify as needed. Anyone have any additional tips, or info that might be useful?

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Well, the plan is have them get trained up around those tomato posts, and then I can string a twine as high as I want across two trees 40 feet apart, then tie twines vertically connected to the horizontal twine and the tomatoe cages.

And samc, what's a yankee fan doing in Orgegon?

Here is a very scientific, to scale, complicated, in color drawing of what I plan my hops to grow like.

http://i41.tinypic.com/r2n4wj.jpg

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