Successfully Growing Indoors - Page 3

ASublimeDay · 02-02-2012, 03:37 PM

I should also mention that the side-arms are about a foot long on each vine. There would be a LOT more on the right side, but the main Cascade vine got chopped accidentally when I was removing excess vines at the base of the plant.

I was...upset. But another vine on the Cascade took over and rebounded fairly quickly. It was really fun tracking a 10' vine through the chicken wire to remove it (not!).

Tossed it into the worm bin...circle of life.

**psymonkey** · 02-07-2012, 11:51 PM

One of these days you're door is going to get kicked in by the DEA

You've got everything they look for. Increased power bill, additional ventilation and eventually an awfully reminiscent aroma

ASublimeDay · 02-09-2012, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by psymonkey

One of these days you're door is going to get kicked in by the DEA

You've got everything they look for. Increased power bill, additional ventilation and eventually an awfully reminiscent aroma

Ah yeah, they'll be scrutinizing that extra $8 on my electrical bill pretty hard.

The people they look for have 4+ 1,000 w lights running, not to mention industrial fans, etc. That's the type of stuff that makes your electrical bill double and sometimes even triple.

I assume the ventilation you're referring to would be discovered with FLIR imaging (heat cameras, essentially). What they look for is venting extreme heat OUT of your house. So something like a dryer vent would show up a bit and a commercial grow 1500 CFM fan shooting out 100+-degree temps would show up a LOT. I have a 4" desk fan blowing out lukewarm air into an office and then dissipating into the room. It isn't even hot enough to change the ambient temperature of the small room its in. My space heater would show up stronger on a FLIR than the hops box.

They'd also need a warrant to use a FLIR camera, and then to search the house, even if they did suspect something. A FLIR warrant is usually obtained by searching your trash. I don't do drugs, ergo there is nothing in my trash through which to obtain a warrant.

It'd also be local PD, not the DEA. The DEA has far better things to do than raid closet-grows in small towns.

Finally, is there anyone that has actually smelled the cousin of hops that would confuse it for hops, or vice-versa?

I have several friends in law enforcement. I made sure this wouldn't be confused for something illicit.

**SenorPepe** · 02-09-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ASublimeDay

Ah yeah, they'll be scrutinizing that extra $8 on my electrical bill pretty hard.

The people they look for have 4+ 1,000 w lights running, not to mention industrial fans, etc. That's the type of stuff that makes your electrical bill double and sometimes even triple.

I assume the ventilation you're referring to would be discovered with FLIR imaging (heat cameras, essentially). What they look for is venting extreme heat OUT of your house. So something like a dryer vent would show up a bit and a commercial grow 1500 CFM fan shooting out 100+-degree temps would show up a LOT. I have a 4" desk fan blowing out lukewarm air into an office and then dissipating into the room. It isn't even hot enough to change the ambient temperature of the small room its in. My space heater would show up stronger on a FLIR than the hops box.

They'd also need a warrant to use a FLIR camera, and then to search the house, even if they did suspect something. A FLIR warrant is usually obtained by searching your trash. I don't do drugs, ergo there is nothing in my trash through which to obtain a warrant.

It'd also be local PD, not the DEA. The DEA has far better things to do than raid closet-grows in small towns.

Finally, is there anyone that has actually smelled the cousin of hops that would confuse it for hops, or vice-versa?

I have several friends in law enforcement. I made sure this wouldn't be confused for something illicit.

Nice answer to the obligatory DEA post.

**psymonkey** · 02-09-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ASublimeDay

Ah yeah, they'll be scrutinizing that extra $8 on my electrical bill pretty hard.

The people they look for have 4+ 1,000 w lights running, not to mention industrial fans, etc. That's the type of stuff that makes your electrical bill double and sometimes even triple.

I assume the ventilation you're referring to would be discovered with FLIR imaging (heat cameras, essentially). What they look for is venting extreme heat OUT of your house. So something like a dryer vent would show up a bit and a commercial grow 1500 CFM fan shooting out 100+-degree temps would show up a LOT. I have a 4" desk fan blowing out lukewarm air into an office and then dissipating into the room. It isn't even hot enough to change the ambient temperature of the small room its in. My space heater would show up stronger on a FLIR than the hops box.

They'd also need a warrant to use a FLIR camera, and then to search the house, even if they did suspect something. A FLIR warrant is usually obtained by searching your trash. I don't do drugs, ergo there is nothing in my trash through which to obtain a warrant.

It'd also be local PD, not the DEA. The DEA has far better things to do than raid closet-grows in small towns.

Finally, is there anyone that has actually smelled the cousin of hops that would confuse it for hops, or vice-versa?

I have several friends in law enforcement. I made sure this wouldn't be confused for something illicit.

Wow. I actually double-winked.

**david_42** · 02-09-2012, 11:41 PM

You've already experienced my main concern, removing the bines from the chicken wire. Next year, I'd recommend burlap. Then the whole mess can go on the compost heap.

ASublimeDay · 02-10-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by david_42

You've already experienced my main concern, removing the bines from the chicken wire. Next year, I'd recommend burlap. Then the whole mess can go on the compost heap.

Would the bines be able to grow through the burlap? Seems like it would just create a wall that would block light/growth?

I do like the idea of some sort of organic material next time, though

ASublimeDay · 02-13-2012, 06:14 PM

I added a foot to the ceiling of the grow box (now 5.5 feet tall). Bines can grow about four feet before being trained back down. Each crown has at least one bine over 15 feet long.

I'm going to use a zig-zagging twine for the next layer. The chicken wire is packed. More pics to come.

ASublimeDay · 02-13-2012, 06:15 PM

A glance at the chicken wire layer. Bines are two days shy of six weeks old. They did four weeks vegging, and have been flowering for 12 days.

There is a bit of sawdust on the plants (I cleaned it off shortly after the pic). This is from the construction of expanding the box.

ASublimeDay · 02-13-2012, 06:20 PM

Here we see a closer picture (not close enough, I took them a little

)

You should be able to see the early flowers. I'll take a closer pic next week when they're more prominent.

My goal is to flower them until they stop producing. By eliminating the vegging stage, I'm hoping to get a constant enough supply that I never have to buy hops again.

I've scrapped the hydro idea, as the cost of hydroponic nutrients is a little ridiculous and they're doing so well in the organic soil.