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Chaserlm 03-11-2014 07:51 AM

Second Season Growing Help, Add dirt or not
 
Last year I plated two rhizomes in separate pots and let each grow two bines. This will be the second growth and they are starting to break ground. My question here is this: should I add more dirt to the pots? They pots were both filled almost to the top last year but now it has compacted down to nearly only half full. Should I add more dirt? Should I just throw dirt on the top of what is already in the pots? Should I did up the plants then add more dirt and bury the rhizomes back? Would love to know what would be the best plan for these guys. Thanks for any help.

http://s2.postimg.org/4wiv6f68o/2014_03_07_16_44_10.jpg

PapaBearJay 03-11-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaserlm (Post 5976140)
Last year I plated two rhizomes in separate pots and let each grow two bines. This will be the second growth and they are starting to break ground. My question here is this: should I add more dirt to the pots? They pots were both filled almost to the top last year but now it has compacted down to nearly only half full. Should I add more dirt? Should I just throw dirt on the top of what is already in the pots? Should I did up the plants then add more dirt and bury the rhizomes back? Would love to know what would be the best plan for these guys. Thanks for any help.

http://s2.postimg.org/4wiv6f68o/2014_03_07_16_44_10.jpg

If you have larger pots, you might think about transplanting and refreshing the soil mixture. If not, then yes, if you can. Try (delicately) removing the plant, loosen or remove the dirt on the roots (don't worry if it's not perfect, just do what you can). If you do damage the roots, don't worry, that will stimulate new root growth, though the plant may suffer (albeit small) some shock, it is fairly resilient.

Whether you transplant or just freshen the soil, try to get the crown as close to the top as possible, that will allow room for roots to grow, and make it easier for the plant to dry off as its crown will be closer to the wind. If the plant is deep in the pot, that can lead to standing water, rot, etc. You don't want that.

Best!

TuefelHund 03-12-2014 02:21 PM

Transplant to bigger pot, baby. Gotta give the rhizomes room to spread.

If not an option, may consider trimming the rhizomes.


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Chaserlm 03-13-2014 08:11 PM

Thanks! In retrospect I really should have just got the bigger pots when I bought these but I wanted plastic and these were the biggest non clay that Home Depot had at the time. Im going to head over there this weekend and grab some more dirt and see if they have any of the big plastic pots now. Thanks for the advice.

corkybstewart 03-13-2014 08:41 PM

Is there some reason you can't plant them? They really will never do much if you keep them in pots. Here's a picture of MOST of a 5 year old Cascade crown in a full sized lawn chair:
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/o...ber2009001.jpg

Chaserlm 03-13-2014 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkybstewart (Post 5983061)
Is there some reason you can't plant them? They really will never do much if you keep them in pots. Here's a picture of MOST of a 5 year old Cascade crown in a full sized lawn chair:
http://i362.photobucket.com/albums/o...ber2009001.jpg

Yeah I live in an apartment building but I have a very large porch, so a pot on the porch is the best I can do for now.

HALIFAXHOPS 03-14-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by PapaBearJay (Post 5976472)
If you have larger pots, you might think about transplanting and refreshing the soil mixture. If not, then yes, if you can. Try (delicately) removing the plant, loosen or remove the dirt on the roots (don't worry if it's not perfect, just do what you can). If you do damage the roots, don't worry, that will stimulate new root growth, though the plant may suffer (albeit small) some shock, it is fairly resilient.

Whether you transplant or just freshen the soil, try to get the crown as close to the top as possible, that will allow room for roots to grow, and make it easier for the plant to dry off as its crown will be closer to the wind. If the plant is deep in the pot, that can lead to standing water, rot, etc. You don't want that.

Best!

Dead on!

Chaserlm 03-20-2014 12:57 AM

So I couldn't find any larger pots. Home Depot only had 12" round and smaller and didn't seem able to tell me when they would have larger so I just got more dirt and used the pots I had.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7050/...097bdf76_o.jpg
Here is what it looked like with most of the dirt knocked off
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/...39b9853f_o.jpg

The second pot had a wild flower growing in it
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7305/...51caba7e_o.jpg

I planted two rhizomes in the pot
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7087/...86555f23_o.jpg

I tossed the smaller one and re-planted that larger one
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3693/...914ddb61_o.jpg

And here is what I was left with
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3704/...b19f84af_o.jpg

I hope they work out all right.

PapaBearJay 03-20-2014 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaserlm (Post 5998529)
So I couldn't find any larger pots. Home Depot only had 12" round and smaller and didn't seem able to tell me when they would have larger so I just got more dirt and used the pots I had.
http://s28.postimg.org/paweacz8s/201...9_16_56_40.jpg
Here is what it looked like with most of the dirt knocked off
http://s26.postimg.org/e5dstvsh4/201...9_16_56_51.jpg

The second pot had a wild flower growing in it
http://s26.postimg.org/cezd650bs/201...9_17_03_30.jpg

I planted two rhizomes in the pot
http://s26.postimg.org/qmp1usd0o/201...9_17_11_32.jpg

I tossed the smaller one and re-planted that larger one
http://s26.postimg.org/fbme6f65k/201...9_17_14_15.jpg

And here is what I was left with
http://s26.postimg.org/uydnjsjxk/201...9_17_38_58.jpg

I hope they work out all right.

Pic fail!

Chaserlm 03-20-2014 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaBearJay (Post 5998731)
Pic fail!

It looked fine on my computer, moved the pics to a different host.


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