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Old 02-20-2008, 02:38 PM   #11
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Im not sure what pvc I used last year but around harvest it started to bend, it was 12ft and way to short I needed probably another 4ft at least, .

my idea with the poles. hook up a cable running run it from the ground at one end of the poles, through a pulley at the top of the pole, to the other pole with a pulley on top, then to the ground. attaching wires every 5ft or so for the hops to grow on.

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Old 02-20-2008, 03:33 PM   #12
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Ahh!! Makes tons more sense. But still, you probably need to get a building permit for those. If one fell in a bad wind it could ruin a roof.

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Standing a telephone pole takes a boom truck and a deep hole.

I would lean towards PVC or galvanized pipe.

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Old 02-20-2008, 04:10 PM   #14
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Im not sure what pvc I used last year but around harvest it started to bend, it was 12ft and way to short I needed probably another 4ft at least, .

my idea with the poles. hook up a cable running run it from the ground at one end of the poles, through a pulley at the top of the pole, to the other pole with a pulley on top, then to the ground. attaching wires every 5ft or so for the hops to grow on.
Forget the TP poles, IMO, too dang big a dimater and too dang tall.

I'd suggest you talk to fencing companys about custom length 2-5/8" poles or just plan on being lower to the ground.

I chose 13 feet.

By this I can bury 3 foot of the pole in the ground in concrete, thus not needing guy wires to support everything. I can comfortably use a ladder come harvest time. I am not violating any building codes (the trellis would not be considered a structure or a fence in my jurisdiction). And finally, I am not so high that if I did experience any catastrophic failures that I would cause any serious damage to my or the neighbors house (cept maybe a window).

My .2 cents.

Besides that, how do you plan to erect a TP pole? A skid steer auger and a crane?
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:07 PM   #15
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I used 18 ft. pressure-treated 4x4's, although there is a pole mill just down the road. I figure it would take four people or some heavy equipment to set a utility pole. Had to special order the 4x4's, but that wasn't a problem.

I hook the twine on the cross pieces and at harvest, I use a long branch loper to lower the bine to the ground. I don't cut the bine, just strip the cones and leave it to store up food for next year.

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:16 PM   #16
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I might be able to run the cable between two trees

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3" galvanized pipe ought to do it. You can probably go at least 20' up safely if you stake it to the ground in 4 places. That's what the hops will creep up anyway.

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anyone try conduit? i am looking at going 8 feet up or so, and run line between two polls..

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We get used telephone poles form our local R.E.A.. To set the pole it takes a deep hole, tractor with bucket and a strong back. Last one we set was for a T.V. antenna that now will be used for hop.

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anyone try conduit? i am looking at going 8 feet up or so, and run line between two polls..
I've seen teepee designs using 3 sticks of EMT smashed at one end with a bolt run threw them.

I am planning on planting 2 4x4x16' and build a 2x12 box that will ride up and down both of them. Then using some pullies and cable I can raise and lower the 2x12 box as needed.
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