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01-10-2012, 01:57 PM
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Native Hops to North Dakota
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I know that hops can be grown in ND but i am looking for a specific variety that is native to ND. i have an aunt and uncle that has them on their property and want to know if there are any specific to the region. been researching but can't find specifics.
thought i would let you all expell your knowledge.
thanks
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01-10-2012, 05:27 PM
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There are wild hops and there are the commercially grown hops. If these were grown for beer you either have a commercial hop still grown or a heritage hop- some thing that was grown but has been replaced by a better hop.
Regardless, there is no way to guess without sending them in for analysis. Classic question and the answer is either brew with them and love them for what they are, or send them in to find out what they are.
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01-10-2012, 05:57 PM
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more or less my question is... what kind of hops can grow natively? i am looking to grow hops that are native to ND
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01-10-2012, 11:55 PM
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Pretty much any hop used in brewing these days could be grown in ND, though not all will produce to their peak.
While there are varieties of hops that are native to the US, they aren't used in the original form for brewing. They have been crossbred with other varieties to create the breeds we use today.
What is growing out at your Aunt and Uncle's are probably an old cluster variety or something similar planted years ago that has since gone feral. It may be good or not. If you are looking for a "native" variety, I'm not sure you will find any information on that.
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01-11-2012, 03:53 AM
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it's funny, I live in Philly, and there are literally wild hops growing ALL over the effing place! I see them all the time, ( well, not in the winter),. The thing I notice is that they are always mixed in with their male counterpart, so cones are seeded and not so "hoppy". Not to highjack this thread, but I've been contemplating digging up the rhizomes from some of the females and planting them somewhere away from the boys. However, I'm uncertain if hops is hermaphroditic and or is a male or female plant like it's more psychoactive cousin.
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01-11-2012, 06:37 AM
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Boys are boys and girls are girls. Sometimes I've seen the girls wanting to be boys - a little, but it's no big deal. As long as you're far enough away from the boys you should be able to grow some cones. Haha, that kinda sounds stupid!
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01-11-2012, 02:50 PM
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they are diocious (seperate sexes for each plant)
do you think fuggles would be a good choice for growth?
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01-11-2012, 02:58 PM
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Fuggle would work fine. Pretty much any of the "American" varieties should do well. The ones that won't produce are the Nobel varieties like Saaz that have a hard time outside of their home region.
Basically, plant what you brew with. If you are going to plant out at your Aunt and Uncle's, be sure to rip out the male feral plants. If they pollinate your fuggles, the chemical profile will change, along with the flavor. If any of those seeds drop and sprout, then you will have some hybrid that will taste completely different. It ma be good but who knows.
You may also want to harvest some of those feral to see what they taste like. Make a tea to get an idea.
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01-11-2012, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GVH_Dan
Fuggle would work fine. Pretty much any of the "American" varieties should do well. The ones that won't produce are the Nobel varieties like Saaz that have a hard time outside of their home region.
Basically, plant what you brew with. If you are going to plant out at your Aunt and Uncle's, be sure to rip out the male feral plants. If they pollinate your fuggles, the chemical profile will change, along with the flavor. If any of those seeds drop and sprout, then you will have some hybrid that will taste completely different. It ma be good but who knows.
You may also want to harvest some of those feral to see what they taste like. Make a tea to get an idea.
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Listen to this man.
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01-11-2012, 06:44 PM
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The reason i ask about fuggles is that they are not from this region. they are from the UK. is there american fuggles?
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