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Old 04-20-2010, 03:37 PM   #21
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From a gardeners perspective.
I've actually been primarily eating organic/locally grown food for quite a while now. I completely believe in eating natural more nutritious food, but considering I've started one single raised bed in a backyard of a home I will be moving from in the next year or so, organic doesn't necessarily make sense for now. With that said, I'm still into learning more about the process.
See, now this would have been a great preface!
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Old 04-20-2010, 05:53 PM   #22
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I will now PM you my address so you can send me one of you health food advocate beers I'm sure you make.

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Old 04-20-2010, 07:48 PM   #23
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I prefer organic, but am a very lazy gardener. This past year I dumped all of my spent grains in the area where I planted my hops. The spot that got the most grains is showing by far the fastest growth 2 to 1 so far. The ground around the Centennials is filled with worms. The other areas are growing slower and not very many worms. It is an easy way to compost IMO, as I am not about to set up the real composting barrels.

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Old 04-20-2010, 09:11 PM   #24
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The majority of my plants are over 5' tall now...

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Old 04-20-2010, 11:18 PM   #25
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FoxFarm FTW!! Yeah yeah yeah, it's organic but it's amazing. If you start with their Ocean Garden soil you won't need to feed them for the first few months! Then, when you're ready to feed them with FoxFarm nutes, you just mix them in with the water you give your plants. There are even several kinds so you can hit the exact N-P-K ratio you want depending on vegetative or flowering growth.

I don't trust Miracle Gro because I bought a bag of their soil that came with spider mites! 2-3 weeks after potting some plants it looked like the surface of the soil was moving! And apparently that's a kinda common occurrence from what I've heard/read. So no MG for me, thank you.

Sorry, just my $0.02

EDIT: It's also really cheap. 35# bag of Ocean Garden (which already has a great mixture of perlite in it so it drains really well) is only $12 at our local hydroponics store. The bottles of nutes are pretty cheap as well, going for roughly $12 as well.

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Old 04-21-2010, 01:47 AM   #26
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oh, and to the originator of this thread:

Everything you can do with synthetic fertilizer can be done organically. Just because you're not willing to learn how or that it may take more time and effort to do so does not mean it doesn't work and doesn't work well. The nutrients in natural composts and soil amendments are typically more stable and will feed your plants over a more sustained period of time, in addition to resulting in no chemical runoff. They also promote healthy insect and bacteria colonies that will provide better overall soil conditions and better resistance to harmful insect colonies through natural predation/colonies.

Finally someone stands up for organics! Synthetics are also made up of a lot of salts. They may work for a short period of time. But after they have washed through your soil, being salts they have leeched your soil now of a tooooon of living things.. You have a to keep a good balance of living things in your soil. Have you ever heard of mycorrhizae, or pro biotic fertilizers? you want to use these. Plus if you see a 20-20-20 synthetic all purpose that is way more than your plant can take in anyways. Compare that to a 4-4-4 organic that is ALSO slow release and it pro biotic and you have a winner.
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Old 04-21-2010, 02:23 AM   #27
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Default Miracle Gro Schmericle Gro . . .

I call Bull Sh!t . . . or maybe I should say Horse Sh!t . . .



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And my nephews work for BEER . . .


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And my nephews work for BEER . . .
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Does the camo shirt come with the manure?
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I found a place with free composted horse sh!t. It really is good stuff, All my plants are benefitting.

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If you use horse manure you need to make sure it's been composted WELL. Horses don't digest all the seeds so you'll have hay and other weeds sprouting up in your garden. Actually, all manure should be composted because it can burn your garden/lawn/plants if you don't.

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