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**ThreeDogsNE** · 07-06-2010, 03:55 AM

It says they are shipped in a cone. It sounds like small plants with leaves, rather than a rhizome with just buds.

I wouldn't be afraid to try rhizomes still, but the choices at Freshops are down to Willamettes and Zeus. Zeus is identical to Columbus and Tomahawk, and is compared to Cascade as similar in it's citrusy character. It has about triple the alpha acid, so it will go much further for bittering, but should still be reasonably close for flavoring and aroma additions. The rhizomes cost 1/3 of the cost of a plant. You could buy three, and if two die you break even. If more make it you're ahead. Two of the three Northern Brewer rhizomes I planted on 6/28 have come up in the past few days, as has the Mt Hood rhizome. It is still a short time enough time since they were planted for me to have reasonable hope for the other NB to make it. If not, three out of four ain't bad for $20.

**ThreeDogsNE** · 07-07-2010, 03:28 AM

4th one came up today, the other Northern Brewer. It's looking good for steam beers next year+.

**kegtoe** · 07-10-2010, 03:56 AM

alright everyone here is what i got for $15 bucks each - was it worth it?? - I'll let you all be the judge of that.

CaliBrewin · 07-12-2010, 03:39 PM

interesting.

is there a section of solid rhizome in the container there?

or is it just shoots with roots?

havent seen this before..

**kegtoe** · 07-12-2010, 10:06 PM

I thought i had a pic when i pulled them out of the yellow "cone" - all you can see is a lump of soil and very fine roots. I'm not sure if there is a rhizome contained in the dirt or not but if ther is, its a small chunk.

**uechikid** · 07-12-2010, 10:35 PM

It sounds to me like they got them started from cuttings. If you are able to get them to grow this year, you'll be in business next year.