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Grippe 04-01-2012 05:18 PM

Jinks Small Footprint Trellis v1.0
 
Goal - build a small footprint (less than 2 1/2 foot square) trellis that has up to 25' of climbing space for bines with a maximum height of 8'.

Solution - go 'corkscrew' or 'spiral'

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8...-05-59_828.jpg

Narrative - as you can see I live in an apartment (recent divorce). The patio at my place, while good sized, is limited and has a 9' ceiling. I had been struggling with how to give the hops bines enough space (goal of 25') to grow within these constraints when one day, while taking a nap, I had a clear vision: A square trellis with one twine per leg but wrapped around the inside with a modest rise over run ratio. Before it slipped my mind from waking up I drew a quick sketch of this madness and the idea gained traction in my mind.

Materials list -
  • 8x 2"x2"x8'
  • 4x 1"x2"x8'
  • 1x box of 2.5" decking screws (100 count)
  • 1x roll of twine (300 ft)
  • 8x #10 zinc plated eye screws
  • 1x box of 5/8" brass hook screws
  • 8x non slip footpads
  • 1x quart gunstock red stain
Build -
I conceptualized 4x two by two's would be roughly equivalent to the load bearing of a single four by four. I also conceptualized that two square boxes of one by two's would be enough bracing to keep the four corner posts rigidly in place. I started my build...

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I started by building the two boxes per trellis (building two trellises, so four boxes total) by cutting the 1'x2" boards into 24" sections.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3...0-22-56_33.jpg

First of the four boxes built. Three more to build after this then to rough in the standing assemblies.

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Here is the first of the two trellises roughed in, I chose to make the top box flush with the top of the 2"x2" posts and the second at 36" from the bottom (you'll see why later).

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...1-08-54_33.jpg

At the bottom of each 2"x2" post I made sure to add feet, I definitely did not want the lumber in standing water (even though its treated).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r...-12-53_411.jpg

First trellis roughed in. Time to assemble the second and take them up three flights of stairs!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...-45-39_453.jpg

Once I got them up to the patio, I made pencil tick marks every 6" from the top of the 2"x2" posts, these will be where I place the eyes and hooks.

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Next phase of the build materials for reference.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-j...-27-17_617.jpg

I put the eye screws at the top of each post.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0...-42-17_462.jpg

But I used the brass hooks at every six inches going down the posts - I chose hooks over eyes down the posts to make it easy to run the twine at the end of assembly and also so I could lift the twines (with bines) out at the end of the year, easing harvesting.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V...-42-23_886.jpg

Here's a better look 'up' a post to see the hooks at 6" intervals leading up to the eye screw at the top.

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I measured from hook to hook - 22". With each run of twine making 11 turns before reaching the bottom that equates to 20' 2" of run space per bine (not including the run space from the soil to the first hook). Not quite 25' but I chose to stop at 11 turns to leave space (again, see below).

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W...8-43-48_54.jpg

Here they are standing up side by side, you can see the hooks clearly here.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...-26-48_999.jpg

After a quick coat of stain to ensure the apartment residents don't think I'm too much of a red neck.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4...-28-45_742.jpg

Starting to run the twine, first corner, then going to the next post and down one hook.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x...-30-24_784.jpg

Hooks make this SO simple. Rise over run came out to 6" per 22".

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-z...-05-08_221.jpg

And here is why I chose to make the lower support box at 36" from the base and stop the rotations at 11 hooks - I wanted to be sure I would have room to water the plants as well as tend them.


Summary - This is my very first year growing hops, so I do not know if this system will work. It cost about $40 per trellis and one full day of labor, including running to the home depot to buy the stuff.

I will be sure to post updates throughout the summer.

strumke 04-01-2012 06:19 PM

Looks awesome! I'm doing something similar by making a "V" from two 12' garden stakes and tying string back and forth between them. Not as nice as yours, but it's very quick to assemble.

Psych 04-01-2012 06:24 PM

Nice! This looks really good - I wonder if it'd get all the light it wants, on all parts of it? Totally looks like a good idea though, very cool!

tchuklobrau 04-01-2012 11:19 PM

How many rhizomes you putting in the container?(sorry if I missed that) Looks good hope it works. Best thing is that if one side looks "sun starved" rotate the whole assembly. I do think you are going to have to keep an eye on em and keep training lest they jump ship and go straight up.

urbanmyth 04-01-2012 11:22 PM

This is brilliant. As long as you can train them to go where you want them, I'd say it's golden.

tchuklobrau 04-01-2012 11:28 PM

Lol having them on the balcony like that I bet you have the cops there at least once to see what you are growing.

Grippe 04-02-2012 12:38 AM

Only one rhizome per pot - Mt. Hood & Sterling. I might be able to rotate them if they get too grown in per side but I anticipate having to train them due to the sun only coming from one direction.

I live near Austin, a 3rd floor apartment facing the west (they'll get a good solid 4-5 hours of afternoon Texas sun every day) and I'm hoping they don't cook.

Grippe 04-02-2012 11:56 PM

Planted last Thursday, came home today (Monday) and found some enthusiasts waking up.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-a...8-15-30_40.jpg

Mt. Hood!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-v...8-15-47_52.jpg

Sterling.

I wonder how many days before they're ready to train? Will keep y'all posted on the design.

Grippe 07-12-2012 01:30 AM

As a follow up for everyone - don't fight mother nature.

I live in Texas, on the 3rd floor and my apartment faces west. To say it's been hot is an understatement - my plants cooked... COOKED (I took soil temperatures of 94 & 97 in consecutive weeks). The plants were doing great (gaining a few inches every day and winding themselves up the twine) until it got blazing hot.

I am moving to a house and will try again next year (/whimper).

thaymond 05-08-2014 12:23 PM

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Rise, thread rise! Is OP still using the design? What were the results that you had with this small footprint trellis after the move? I saw this thread and ran with the design with my 4x4 garden. My HOA were jerks and cited me for a structure violation last year with my hops (can't have any structure over 10 feet.) I argued that it was a plant and not a structure, but whatever. Here's what I came up with.

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What do you think? This gives me roughly 30' + of growth space, with a cross at the top for additional growth.


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